Prabhupāda: So how we, a sane man, can trust a thief? A sane man cannot trust a thief. There are so many things. They could not produce even a grass, even a small plant in the biology, chemistry laboratory, and still they're claiming it is product of biology, chemistry. What is this nonsense? What kind of scientist they are?
Locana: We couldn't even choose when we were born.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Locana: We couldn't even choose being born here.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Locana: So where is the question of control?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: That is why, in the ultimate analysis, the geologists, mostly when they trace the origin of life, they say everything started from matter. Living matters came out from nonliving matters.
Prabhupāda: Where it is coming now? It came in the past and not in the now, and not at present? Where from an ant is coming from this dust? Is there any proof? Even an ant does not come.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: In fact, there are several theories like that, about the origin of life. And they say starting from matter, all the living matters came from nonliving.
Prabhupāda: That's all right. Why it is not coming now, rascal? (chuckles) I kick on your face with boots. Why it is not coming now?
Karandhara: If it happened before, it should happen now.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: And it is so amazing that people believe it.
Prabhupāda: That means the fools.
Brahmānanda: The blind leading the blind.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Andhā yathāndhair upanīyamānāḥ (SB 7.5.31). All rascals, mūḍhāḥ. Our simple formula is: Anyone who is not Kṛṣṇa conscious, he's a rascal, thats all. Never mind what he is. We immediately reject him, a rascal. Our simple formula. And actually they're rascal. They're talking like rascals, childish, the life came from matter. Prove it. That future, what is this? I am very rich man, and as soon as I ask you, "Give me some money," "Oh, yes. I'll give you in future." What is this?
Devotee: Bluff.
Brahmānanda: Sometimes when we ask someone to become a Life Member, they say: "Yes, sometime in future." We become very disappointed.
Prabhupāda: We shall make vigorous propaganda against all this rascalism. That is our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. Mūḍhāḥ. Challenge them.
Brahmānanda: Saying "In future," that is a bluff.
Prabhupāda: Bluff. That is a bluff. When that future will come? That they do not know. That is another bluff. And still, they're proud of advancement of knowledge. Still they're talking of future. And what is your advancement?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: So long as the future is there, they have a voice to say . . .
Prabhupāda: Future we cannot trust. "Trust no future, however pleasant." This is our philosophy. Everyone says that. "Trust no future, however pleasant." You may talk that future is very bright, but we don't believe in that. Why future? If you are advanced—immediately.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: That's . . . (indistinct)?
Prabhupāda: In the past, you say, in the past the life came out of matter. Why you again say in the future? What is this theory? You have already committed that the life began from matter. That is past, "began." Then why you say now again "future"? Then where is the beginning? Eh? Why this contradiction? If life began from matter, that is past. That is in the past. Then why do you say again future? What is the answer? Is it not contradiction?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yeah. That misses the whole point.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is whole, wholesale nonsense. Wholesale nonsense. You are expecting the fact in the future, still you say it began in the past. Just see the contradiction.
Devotee: Yes.
Golfers: Fore! Fore!
Prabhupāda: So contradiction means childish. Contradiction is not scientist. Contradiction is childish.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: They started from a point where . . .
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: They started from a point where there's no background. There's no . . .
Prabhupāda: No background, that is another thing. And still, they cannot prove it at present. They're expecting to prove it in the future.