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When Lord Brahma, when he became angry at the four Kumaras he created Lord Siva from between his eyebrows. So he is always situated on his lotus, but at that time should we paint him on his planet?

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"So he is always situated on his lotus, but at that time should we paint him on his planet" |"When Lord Brahma, when he became angry at the four Kumaras he created Lord Siva from between his eyebrows"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1972 Conversations and Morning Walks

His planet is just like lotus flower.
Room Conversation -- July 4, 1972, New York:

Yadurāṇī: ... do it effectively. And, Śrīla Prabhupāda, Muralīdhara just asked you that when Lord Brahmā, when he became angry at the four Kumāras he created Lord Śiva from between his eyebrows. So he is always situated on his lotus, but at that time should we paint him on his planet?

Prabhupāda: His planet is just like lotus flower.

Yadurāṇī: Oh.

Prabhupāda: Just like Kṛṣṇa planet is also like lotus.

Yadurāṇī: Jaya, so, so it has...

Prabhupāda: Just like here in this material world the Brahmā's planet is the ultimate. That is also like mat..., lotus flower, and in the spiritual world the ultimate planet is Kṛṣṇa-loka.

Yadurāṇī: So you would have palaces and garden scenes and Lord Brahmā perhaps on his throne?

Prabhupāda: Yes. Cintāmaṇi-prakara-sadmasu kalpa-vṛkṣa-lakṣāvṛteṣu (Bs. 5.29). There are palaces, trees, everything. They are not voids. The voidist cannot understand what is there.

Devotee (7): And Śrīla Prabhupāda, can we paint more informal portraits...

Prabhupāda: Hm?

Devotee (7): ...of yourself and the other ācāryas to send to the temples? Or should we...

Yadurāṇī: Informal.

Prabhupāda: Huh?

Yadurāṇī: Informal. That is, Puṣkara painted a picture of you sitting in a very formal position.

Prabhupāda: Ah ha...

Yadurāṇī: Should we stick to formal positions, or is it all right to do informal pose, like just your head and your chest?

Prabhupāda: No, no. Formal.

Yadurāṇī: Formal always?

Prabhupāda: Always. Not like bust, no. Just like guru mahārāja. We won't put all that top, bust form.

Yadurāṇī: Śrīla Prabhupāda? You asked for big, big, paintings to be sent to Māyāpur and Vṛndāvana. When you say "big, big," do you mean like five feet and..., or six feet? That big?

Prabhupāda: Yes. Five, six (indistinct).

Yadurāṇī: And Śrīla Prabhupāda, Śyāmasundara... (break) About fifty people will be initiated.

Prabhupāda: Fifty?

Yadurāṇī: Fifty, nearly fifty, gāyatrī and both.

Devotee (7): Both, gāyatrī and...

Devotee (8): Śrīla Prabhupāda? We want to view the movies in this room.

Prabhupāda: Go ahead. How many beads?

Devotee: Twenty-seven. (indistinct)

Devotee (9): Śrīla Prabhupāda? You said you want to present more philosophy in Back to Godhead magazine. Does that mean that we should make it more and more sophisticated? Or does that mean that we should try to present the philosophy in the easiest way?

Prabhupāda: You should insert articles. It is reality. It is not speculation. Nothing, our activity, is speculation or imaginary. Everything is fact. We should present in that way. Either picture or philosophy, anything. They are all facts. People may not take it as something imagination. That argument will be there. Just like here there is a picture, Dakṣa is with a goat head. But they may not take it as imagination. That is possible. It is fact.

Devotee (9): So the..., our business is to present it in such a way that people will...

Prabhupāda: Yes, people will understand it is reality, not sentiment or fictitious. Because they have been instructed by rascals that all these Vedic literatures, they are allegories. Or, how do they call it?

Devotees: Mythology.

Prabhupāda: Mythology. So we are presenting facts, not mythology. That should be the spirit of all our artists and philosophy, writing. (devotees pay obeisances and leave)

Devotee (10): A brush.

Prabhupāda: No soap?

Devotee (10): I don't think so, it's too hard, metal

Prabhupāda: What?

Devotee (10): It's a metal brush. It would be too hard for the nails, for the body.

Devotee: Yeah. For toes? For toenails.

Devotee (10): For feet?

Devotee: Toenails, perhaps.

Prabhupāda: (indistinct)

Devotee (10): Silk cord?

Prabhupāda: What did he make?

Devotee (10): What did he make? Some (indistinct) shoes. (loud noises of fireworks exploding)

Prabhupāda: You know they are also (indistinct)?

Devotee (10): Match your bead bag.

Prabhupāda: Huh?

Devotee (10): It will match your bead bag.

Devotee: Handkerchief.

Prabhupāda: Popular. (laughter)

Devotee: (10) Time magazine, special issue.

Prabhupāda: (devotees are laughing as they look at magazine) What is that?

Devotee (10): It says "Vai..., Vaikuṇṭha Playhouse, statement of purpose." There's a theatrical group called the Vaikuṇṭha Players.

Ātreya Ṛṣi: (break) ...Śrīla Prabhupāda, fourth of July.

Prabhupāda: Huh?

Ātreya Ṛṣi: It's the fourth of July.

Prabhupāda: Today?

Ātreya Ṛṣi: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda: Hm. Keep it all in (indistinct).

Devotee (10): This is some peanuts.

Prabhupāda: Distribute.

Ātreya Ṛṣi: It's a very sad day for us, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda: Hm?

Ātreya Ṛṣi: It's a sad day for us.

Prabhupāda: Sad day?

Ātreya Ṛṣi: Sad.

Prabhupāda: Why?

Ātreya Ṛṣi: Why? We had limited opportunity for associating, so offensively. You'll be leaving today.

Prabhupāda: Hm?

Ātreya Ṛṣi: You'll be going away.

Prabhupāda: Home-made soap, you can make?

Devotee: I could make it if I found out how. I don't know the ingredients.

Prabhupāda: Hm?

Devotee: I don't know the ingredients, but I could find out the ingredients and the process, I could try.

Prabhupāda: Who can make home-made soap. You can?

Devotee (11): We will be making in...

Prabhupāda: Huh?

Devotee (11): ...the Spiritual Sky business. We'll be making. It's the same business, this soap, I think.

Prabhupāda: No, it is not needed.

Devotee: (indistinct) (fireworks explode)

Prabhupāda: It is loud.

Devotee: Yes.

Prabhupāda: (break)...a cheater is not disqualification in this country.

Ātreya Ṛṣi: It's a good qualification.

Prabhupāda: (laughs) Good qualification.

Ātreya Ṛṣi: Biggest cheaters are in control, in charge.

Prabhupāda: What is the disqualification? Not to become cheater?

Ātreya Ṛṣi: Yes, then they will be stupid.

Devotee (10): To be an honest man.

Ātreya Ṛṣi: See, then they call you stupid.

Prabhupāda: Oh. So standard is different, completely. Human intelligence means you must be a big cheater.

Devotee: Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: Ah?

Devotee: What would you like to take for lunch today?

Prabhupāda: I'm not feeling very much hungry. Don't prepare now. If I feel hungry, it can be done. Call Śyāmasundara.

Ātreya Ṛṣi: Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: Hm.

Ātreya Ṛṣi: Would you have any instructions as to how I could serve you better? For me?

Prabhupāda: By convincing people of... (end)