Hṛdayānanda: (translating) He's saying why do you say: "A perfect person" instead of saying "A perfect philosophy"?
Prabhupāda: No, unless the philosophy is given by a perfect person, how the philosophy can be perfect? Philosophy means searching after the truth. So if he does not know how to find out the truth, what is the meaning of his philosophy? I was a student of philosophy. My professor was Dr. Urquhart. He used to say that, "Philosophy is the science of science." So unless he is a perfect scientist, how he can give science?
Professor: I have another question. Why do we want to transcend?
Prabhupāda: I am not wanting. I am simply distributing the transcendental knowledge.
Professor: Will not transcendence be an illusion too?
Prabhupāda: No, no, there is proof. It is not . . . (indistinct) . . . what you say, you have no proof, but what I say I have got proof. You, whatever you say, you become your own authority. But what I say, I have got greater authority. Just like two lawyers speaking before the court—the lawyer who gives quotation from the authority, he gains the case.
Professor: Do you have any evidence?
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes.
Professor: Would you tell us your experiences in that field?
Prabhupāda: Yes, that, of course, it will take time for you to understand. Because unless you are lawyer, you cannot understand while the other lawyer is giving quotation. But the court will accept.