Madhudviṣa: In this way the Kali-yuga will progress, and they'll eat less and less food and take more pills, and they will think it is advancement.
Prabhupāda: Mm. Yes.
Madhudviṣa: Housewives think like that already. They take some pills, and they become very slim and they don't have to eat so much. They just smoke cigarettes and drink coffee and take pills. And they're saving money, they think. They don't have to buy so much food, and they're able to remain slim and trim. So in Kali-yuga, as the food supply runs out, so people won't notice.
Lokanātha: Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam says they will be starving.
Prabhupāda: Mm?
Lokanātha: As Kali-yuga advances, they're mentioning one time, there will be durbhikṣā, means not even bhikṣā will be given to sādhus.
Prabhupāda: Yes, not even bhikṣā will be available. I don't think bhikṣā is available in Western countries, eh?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: No.
Pañcadraviḍa: Bhikṣā? Meaning begging for food? No, they will arrest you. (Prabhupāda chuckles)
Prabhupāda: Arrest.
Pañcadraviḍa: Yes, begging is against the law. (break)
Madhudviṣa: ...alms is very elevated. In Western countries, it is a crime. It's written, "Begging alms." That's one crime that they charge the devotees on sometimes.
Prabhupāda: Electricity is coming?
Lokanātha: Yes, these poles are meant for that.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: I doubt, though, if these people can afford.
Prabhupāda: The government can. (break)
Pañcadraviḍa: ...go to beg rice or something, like we were doing for a food program, all the people slam the door in your face. (break)
Pañcadraviḍa: ...went to America, what was your idea of what would be your program when you got there?
Prabhupāda: This idea: I shall speak to don't eat meat, and they'll immediately kick me out. (laughter) That was my program. And I was going to say that "Don't eat meat. No illicit sex," and immediately they will kick me out. "All right." I never thought that you would accept it. That is the idea of my poetry. That is sung, no? You have got that?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: And I was asking Kṛṣṇa, "I do not know why You have brought me here. As soon as I will say these things, they will kick me out. What is Your program, I do not know." (chuckles)