Rāmeśvara: "If I follow the regulative principles and go on hearing about rāsa-līlā, then I'll be purified."
Prabhupāda: You say that. In the śāstra does not say. Śāstra says that after you have studied all the nine cantos of Bhāgavatam, then enter into the tenth. Sahajiyā means they take very easily. "I am.... Everything is all right. Now I am perfect." That is sahajiyā. Kṛṣṇa says, "To understand Me, it will take millions of years." And they understand Kṛṣṇa immediately. That is their.... That is called prākṛta-sahajiyā.
Rāmeśvara: Kṛṣṇa's incarnation is to attract the living entities to Kṛṣṇa. So let me read about rāsa-līlā, because I'm feeling some attraction.
Prabhupāda: Then why not Kurukṣetra-līlā? What...? Kurukṣetra-līlā... Kṛṣṇa's līlā is the same, absolute. You are attracted to rāsa-līlā means you have got sex desire. That's all.
Rāmeśvara: I may still have sex desire, but this will purify me.
Prabhupāda: No, no, no. This will purify. You are not purified.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Putrefied.
Prabhupāda: That is.... The, this rāsa-līlā is for the person who is completely purified. What...? When one is impure, he should not think of. That is stated in the Bhāgavatam.
Rāmeśvara: In this they have misunderstood your Kṛṣṇa book.
Prabhupāda: They must have misunderstood. They are all rascals.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They have not even read carefully the First Canto Bhāgavatam and Second. Prabhupāda says in Second Canto, "Look at the lotus feet of the Lord."
Hari-śauri: I was thinking yesterday that must be one of the problems, that these people have not read your earlier books, the earlier cantos of the Bhāgavatam. Because it says, you express quite clearly to avoid the...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We were lucky because when we joined all that we had were your Bhāgavatams from India, those original Bhāgavatams.
Prabhupāda: (break) ...otherwise...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Otherwise, what shall we do?
Prabhupāda: Otherwise, they are finished.
Rāmeśvara: We should try to save them.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, there are so many devotees involved, over a hundred.
Rāmeśvara: I can't understand who they are.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Fifty of them in Los Angeles.
Rāmeśvara: Do you know? Who knows the names?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa.: Pradyumna. Pradyumna is carrying out a single-handed investigation. Pradyumna has become an investigator. He goes around everywhere (laughs) investigating the sahajiyās. I hope he doesn't become won over.
Prabhupāda: He was.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:. Yes, I know, that's why he's doing it. He was once like that.
Prabhupāda: He was smārta.
Rāmeśvara: Paṇḍita, you used to call him paṇḍita.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Sometimes Prabhupāda would tell him he was a smārta.
Rāmeśvara: He's always carrying an armful of books.