Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Still they're...
Prabhupāda: Expecting. Hope against hope. This is struggle. That they do not see. They do... We have got this valuable life. What we are doing? We are doing the same thing as the small ants do. So what is the difference between that life and this life? Therefore Kṛṣṇa comes that "This is not your business. Your business is to surrender unto Me." Sarva-dharmān parityajya (BG 18.66). That will be solved automatically. But they don't. They take advantage of Bhagavad-gītā and apply it for solving these problems. Gandhi and Bhagavad-gītā—what is that? Political struggle. Such a rascal. And he's leader? He does not know what is the purpose of Bhagavad-gītā. Has Kṛṣṇa come down to speak how to defend, how to eat, how to sleep? Is there any statement there? Tathā dehāntara-prāptiḥ (BG 2.13). Solve this problem. This is the beginning of Bhagavad-gītā. And who, nonsense, understands this? Tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti (BG 4.9). This teaching... This is a teaching of Bhagavad-gītā. And they are taking Bhagavad-gītā for solving these problems. That's all. Ants' struggle. Violence, nonviolence and... So such big, big rascals are guiding us. What benefit they have given? And they are praised. Śva-viḍ-varāhoṣṭra-kharaiḥ saṁstutaḥ... (SB 2.3.19). He's an animal, and he's praised by some small animals. That's all. This is their position. They are not actual leader. They are animals, but because we are small animals, we are praising. So it is very difficult to understand our philosophy, but still, we have to preach. That is our mission. A little drop, maybe like a film or less than that... Still, they are... And again, when you cleanse this, you kill them—you become implicated. You have killed. You have to suffer. They are disturbing; still, you cannot kill them. This is your position. But people are with Flit (a bug killer) killing thousands of mosquitoes and flies, becoming implicated.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We shouldn't kill them. What about if they're biting you, right in the process of biting you?
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Supposing a mosquito is biting you and sucking the blood.
Prabhupāda: Yes, when they bite, you can kill, according to laws of nature. But on the whole, you cannot kill.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You cannot invent means...
Prabhupāda: Therefore mosquito curtain.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Prevention.
Prabhupāda: Prevention is better than cure. They are meant for that purpose. God has made. So instead of killing them, you protect your... But if you are in the service of the Lord, you are not responsible.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: One great Vaiṣṇava was putting the... There were maggots eating in...
Prabhupāda: And that is also story given. Do not believe.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But in the Caitanya-caritāmṛta there's mention of one great...
Girirāja: Vāsudeva. Vāsudeva.
Prabhupāda: Hm? Oh, yes.
Girirāja: There was a leper, and out of compassion for them...
Prabhupāda: Yes. He thought that "I am meant for suffering. Why shall I stop it?" That is exceptional case.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You cannot imitate that. (end)