Caitaguru: Now they have brought a income tax official all from India here. So the Indian peoples, they were giving up money to Africa, and taking money to London and U.K., here and there. So now they have brought out from India. They are very strict. People still take money, but they have more to take than the Africans. The African people are very poor, and they were giving them so much money and taking money out of it. It is difficult for them.
Prabhupāda: Yes. These people can be brought under control by bribing. There is no problem. They have no moral strength, and poor. They will accept bribe. I think by bribing it is still going on. Otherwise how they can stop this bribing? That is not possible.
Cyavana: No. This is their major problem, the immigration authorities. Once the people come here and start to make their exploitation, they cannot get them out. So they make all kinds of artificial regulations—you have to have so much money; you have to have this, and that, your ticket, so many things—to try to stop people from coming here, because once they're here, they just pay their way, and then they get anything they want.
Prabhupāda: The simple method, that everything belongs to God. The king is the representative of God, and he distributes the land amongst the kṣatriyas. Just like knighthood, or in Mussulman times, subedat, and in Hindu times, the subordinate king. Just like Pāṇḍavas, they were the emperors, and under them there were many hundreds and thousands of kings, states. And everything belongs to God. So why fighting? Take it. It is God's property. We are all sons of God. But there is no culture, Āryan culture. They do not know how to live peacefully and cultivate spiritual culture. They do not know. Na te viduḥ svārtha-gatiṁ hi viṣṇuṁ durāśāya ye bahir-artha . . . (SB 7.5.31). And durāśāya, bad hopes, or hopes against hope, they're trying to be happy, bahir-artha, by the external energy, material, most fallen ideas. All foolish theories, without any knowledge. Material, that's all. Bahir artha, external energy. Otherwise there is no cause of anxiety or distress. There is enough land. They can produce enough food and live peacefully. They are talking of peace, but they do not know how peace can be achieved. They are hankering after peace, but they do not know how to achieve peace. And that formula is given in the Bhagavad-gītā: Accept God as the proprietor; then there will be peace. Something stolen from the proprietor by some thieves, and when they sit down to take their shares, there will be fight. The property is stolen, and they are sharing. Now, one will say: "Oh, I have worked so hard. You are giving me so little share?" And others will say: "No, no, we have worked equally." Somebody, "No . . ." In this way there will be fight.