George Harrison: I met, I think, one of your master's other devotees, I forget his name. Gosvāmī, big, in Vṛndāvana, big, tall, with a staff, bald hair. Said you knew his name?
George Harrison: Puruṣottama? Yes.
Mukunda: In Vṛndāvana.
Prabhupāda: He's not a sannyāsī.
George Harrison: Pardon?
Prabhupāda: He's not sannyāsī.
George Harrison: Oh, well, the one I met had a staff. Maybe it was a different one.
Gurudāsa: Mādhava Mahārāja maybe.
Prabhupāda: Maybe Mādhava.
Jayatīrtha: He's big.
Prabhupāda: He's my Godbrother.
George Harrison: Yes, but he didn't speak English. But all the people I was with said he spoke very good Sanskrit, had a good understanding of Sanskrit. But I couldn't understand anything that he, you know.... I just watched him.
Pradyumna: I think Puruṣottama Gosāi.
Prabhupāda: He's talking of Puruṣottama.
Prabhupāda: He's blackish?
George Harrison: No.
Prabhupāda: Not fair complexion. Puruṣottama.
George Harrison: I think he was fair, but he was very tall, very big, and you know, like this, huge size. You know that place where I stayed the night?
Pradyumna: That's his place, Puruṣottama Gosāi.
Gurudāsa: He's not a sannyāsī.
Prabhupāda: He's not sannyāsī, he is householder.
Jayatīrtha: He's married man.
George Harrison: Yes, he had.... His son lived there.
George Harrison: But maybe he's taken, I don't know, I thought he had a daṇḍa, one of those staffs. I saw the little temple in the garden, Kṛṣṇa and Rādhā, where they stay in bed. It's like a bed like this. You know the one?
Pradyumna: Nidhuvana Mandir.
George Harrison: I saw that, where He's been out all night so He doesn't get up until ten o'clock in the morning.
Prabhupāda: You have not seen our temple since it is inaugurated? No.
George Harrison: No.
Prabhupāda: This time you come. Many thousands people come to see daily.
George Harrison: I saw the photograph, looks really nice. It's big.
Gurudāsa: Now they say it's the most beautiful modern temple in Vṛndāvana.
Prabhupāda: You have seen our.... There is any film of the temple?
Gurudāsa: No, but there's photographs.
Jayatīrtha: We have a nice photograph at the reception room downstairs.
George Harrison: Actually it was half built.
Gurudāsa: Yes. Even the building you went into, there's more, the roof.
Prabhupāda: That courtyard is very beautiful. There is a tāmala tree. That is a very valuable tree. The Bisanchand Seth asked me to cut.
Gurudāsa: Yes, I remember.
Prabhupāda: What a nonsense, such a.... He has no idea. Now, on account of that tree, it looks so beautiful.
Hari-śauri: It is, it's very wonderful. The whole tree has flourished since the temple began.
Gurudāsa: We planned the whole temple around that tree. The whole plans.
George Harrison: It's a big old tree?
Pradyumna: Tree's just in the courtyard of the temple, so we left it there.
Gurudāsa: Same color as Kṛṣṇa, śyāma. Like a fresh rain cloud color. So when Rādhārāṇī sees the tree, She thinks of Kṛṣṇa. So when we see the tree we think of Kṛṣṇa. And Śrīla Prabhupāda sits underneath the tree and watches.
Prabhupāda: Rādhārāṇī in separation was embracing that tree, tāmala tree. And they say that in Vṛndāvana, only there are four tāmala trees left.
Gurudāsa: Yes, they've said four or six. Very few.
George Harrison: Is this tree still living?
Devotees: Yes, it's alive.
George Harrison: My compliments to the chef. (laughter)
Prabhupāda: What is this water?
Prabhupāda: Is there any more?
Hari-śauri: I just took it out. I can get some.
Prabhupāda: Bring little. So I am very much pleased that you take so much trouble to come here.
George Harrison: It's my pleasure.
Prabhupāda: Yes, give a little for drinking. You want little more?
George Harrison: Are you ever going to stop traveling?
Prabhupāda: That is Kṛṣṇa's desire. I don't want, personally, but if Kṛṣṇa wants, that is everything. We have got more hundred and two centers, different parts of the world.
George Harrison: Still six more to go.
Prabhupāda: Yes. (laughter) We have got a very nice house in Detroit. If you sometimes go there...
George Harrison: Whereabouts?
George Harrison: Ah, Detroit. They need one there. Crazy place.
Jayatīrtha: Heavy place.
Prabhupāda: That house was constructed fifty years ago at the cost of six million dollars, and we have got it very cheap. Three hundred thousand dollars.
George Harrison: Was it a big house?
Hari-śauri: A very big mansion on the riverside.
George Harrison: Colonial house?
Prabhupāda: Not as big-four acres of land—but the building is very costly. One room will cost now three hundred thousand dollars. So nicely made.
Hari-śauri: They estimated it would cost about fifteen million to build such a house now.
George Harrison: Yes, they probably wouldn't even bother or be able to, at least. Is it an old house?
Hari-śauri: Fifty years old. It's very solid, though, very good condition as well.
Prabhupāda: And on the house on bottom, there is river. Not directly, but an offshoot of river. People come, rowing. A very nice situation, and because it is black quarter, nobody was purchasing. So I said that "For us, what is black or white? Purchase it." So we got very cheap. At that time I paid them hundred and fifty thousand, and (indistinct). So we purchased.
George Harrison: Did they find a temple in Hamburg? In Hamburg. I was there once, but they just had a little tiny house, and they were trying to get another.
Prabhupāda: Hamburg, I think closed?
Jayatīrtha: They have a place in Frankfurt, where the devotees are.... Just outside Frankfurt.
George Harrison: So they haven't got a place in Hamburg.
Jayatīrtha: No, it's a heavy city.
George Harrison: I was there one year when they were having fights. It's...
Jayatīrtha: Rockers. It's a heavy place.
George Harrison: It is full of gangs.