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To eliminate any doubts in the mind of ordinary persons like us, Arjuna inquired that, Krsna, You are my friend. We are almost of the same age. How do you say that You explained this Bhagavad-gita millions and millions of years ago to the sun-god

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Conversations and Morning Walks

1968 Conversations and Morning Walks

The Lord said that, "Many, many, many, many millions of years before, ago, I explained this science of Bhagavad-gītā to the sun-god." Now, to eliminate any doubts in the mind of ordinary persons like us, Arjuna inquired that, "Kṛṣṇa, You are my friend. We are almost of the same age. How do you say that You explained this Bhagavad-gītā millions and millions of years ago to the sun-god? How can I believe that?".

The Bhagavad-gītā is spoken in the battlefield, and Arjuna was denying to fight, but Kṛṣṇa was asking him to fight. So the fighting was good, because it was the will of the Absolute Personality of Godhead. Therefore at the end of understanding Bhagavad-gītā, Arjuna agreed, "Yes, I shall fight."

So fighting for the matter of executing the desire of the Supreme Will is also absolute. It is not different from Absolute Truth. So sometimes it is . . . just like we sometimes see mock-fighting, because that fighting spirit is there. The father and son, the little son is fighting with the father. That is not fighting, but the mock fight. But the fighting spirit is there. You cannot deny it.

Similarly, the fighting spirit is there. Sometimes that is exhibited by the Supreme Personality of Godhead. And He wanted to exhibit such fighting spirit, so who will fight with Him? Ordinary living being cannot fight with the Supreme Lord. Therefore some of His devotees, some of His associates, must fight with Him.

Just like in the Bhagavad-gītā it is said that Arjuna was inquiring from Kṛṣṇa that, "You say that millions of years before, You spoke this Bhagavad-gītā yoga to the sun-god." Imaṁ vivasvate yogaṁ proktavān aham avyayam (BG 4.1). The Lord said that, "Many, many, many, many millions of years before, ago, I explained this science of Bhagavad-gītā to the sun-god." Now, to eliminate any doubts in the mind of ordinary persons like us, Arjuna inquired that, "Kṛṣṇa, You are my friend. We are almost of the same age. How do you say that You explained this Bhagavad-gītā millions and millions of years ago to the sun-god? How can I believe that?" In answer to this question, Kṛṣṇa said that "Both you . . ."

(break) ". . . descended on this material world many, many times, but you have forgotten; I remember." That is the nature of ordinary living entity. The nature is forgetfulness. But God does not forget. He knows past, present and future. That is the difference between Arjuna and Kṛṣṇa.

So the fighting spirit, it is to be understood. The fighting spirit is there in the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and it is exhibited at a certain period just to teach us . . . (indistinct) . . . when fighting should be taken. Fighting is not very good thing, but if there is necessity . . . just like in the Battlefield of Kurukṣetra. The Battlefield of Kurukṣetra was organized by two rival parties. One party was pious; another party was impious. So Kṛṣṇa took side of Arjuna, and he was victorious. That is the history of Kurukṣetra fight.

So the Lord wanted to exhibit His fighting spirit. And who will fight with Him? Therefore two of His devotees were resigned that they should go in the material world and fight with the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Because in the Vaikuṇṭha world there is no question of fighting. There is no enmity. Everyone accepts the Supreme Personality of Godhead as the protector, as the master, as the Lord, and they serve faithfully. So there is no question of fighting.

In the material world everyone wants to be the lord, everyone wants to be God, so therefore there is fight. The fighting here takes place because everyone wants to lord it over the material nature, so there is difference of interest. I want to be lord, you want to be lord: now there must be fight. But in the Vaikuṇṭha world there is one Lord and all others servitor. Therefore there is peace.

So fighting was not possible in the Vaikuṇṭha world—therefore these two doorkeepers were sent to the material world by the plan of the Supreme Lord so that they could fight as Hiraṇyakaśipu and Hiraṇyākṣa with the Lord. That is stated in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam.

Now, the spiritual spark is entering into the material world, penetrating seven layers. This is called avyakta, non-manifested. Just like in the sky there are non-manifested and manifested things. If you go high, some twenty-five thousand, fifty thousand miles up, you'll simply find in the sky nothing manifested. But if you go still higher, higher, higher, you will find so some other planet existing.So the part which is nonmanifested is called avyakta and the part which is manifested that is called vyakta. So, these two souls from Vaikuṇṭha , they are coming into this material world. So they are penetrating the non manifested matter. As the matter . . . five elements - earth, water,fire,air, ether. And then . . . these are gross elements, and there are subtle elements . . . mind, intelligence, ego. And then spiritual.

Our body is composed of three things the spirit soul, and it is covered by subtle body mind, intelligence, ego and then gross body. Earth, water . . . earth, water, fire, air, ether. So this universe, this universe is only one universe but there are millions of universes and they are covered with the gross and subtle elements. And penetrating the gross and subtle elements. When one comes to the sky there are innumerable planets.

The planets are seen or the suns and stars like that. So the two souls Jaya and Vijaya, they are coming on this earth and there is . . . (indistinct) . . . now they came as demons because they have to fight with the Supreme Lord. The devotees will not fight. The devotees are servitor . . . but the atheists, the demons, they are always inimical to the Personality of Godhead. That is the nature, demonic nature means they do not believe in God. Oh, what nonsense God. I am God. Although he is a dog, he thinks himself as God. That is demonic nature.

These being kicked every minute by the laws of nature and still, he is super . . . appreciate a thinking that I am God. God is not so cheap. But they have made to become God is very cheap. If you pay thirty five dollars to a person, he will give you a mantra and you become within six months God. This is very nice statement and people will follow. Thousands and thousands will follow.

But if you say oh, we have to undergo much austerity penance regulation and tapasya, oh this is botheration. We shall enjoy material life at the same time become God. These cheap things are exhibited by the demons, and when a demon is born,the natural disturbances are there. When there are natural disturbances, we must know that there is some demonic principle. That is stated in the all vedic scriptures. At the present moment because we are increasing daily demonic principles . . . a demonic population is increasing, we are meeting with so many disturbances.

Page Title:To eliminate any doubts in the mind of ordinary persons like us, Arjuna inquired that, Krsna, You are my friend. We are almost of the same age. How do you say that You explained this Bhagavad-gita millions and millions of years ago to the sun-god
Compiler:SharmisthaK
Created:2022-09-10, 15:16:20
Totals by Section:BG=0, SB=0, CC=0, OB=0, Lec=0, Con=1, Let=0
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