Carol Jarvis: Do you think the type of life that your devotees must lead . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Carol Jarvis: . . . is in fact a happy one, getting up very early in the morning . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes, it is. Just like if you are suffering from some ailments, so you have to follow some rules and regulation so that you may be cured. (inserted kīrtana)
Carol Jarvis: Your Divine Grace, can I ask you how old you are now?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Carol Jarvis: How old?
Prabhupāda: I am eighty years old. (inserted kīrtana)
Carol Jarvis: Do you make a lot of money out of the sales of your books, etc.? There is begging in the streets each day.
Prabhupāda: Yes. But there are many beggars; they do not get money. We get money. We are not beggars; we are giving books, knowledge. (inserted kīrtana)
Carol Jarvis: I wonder if I could ask you just finally, then, if you have a message for the Australian people.
Prabhupāda: Yes, this is the message: that people are under the impression that one is this body, but that is not the fact. The soul, or the man, he is within the body. Just like you are not your . . . this shirt and coat. (inserted kīrtana)
Mike Barron: That was Carol Jarvis with the leader of the Hare Kṛṣṇa movement, a man with a message, and we hope you've taken note. Well, we'll be back in a few moments, and this time with a surprise . . .