Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: This idea of freedom and independence, is it possible for anyone theoretically to surrender to Kṛṣṇa at any time?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: So let's say someone is in a very degraded condition of life, modes of ignorance, passion. Their mind is always disturbed. Is surrender to Kṛṣṇa . . . Is it possible that it can be independent even of the mind?
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: In other words, let's say someone's mind is . . .
Prabhupāda: You are independent of mind always. It is your mind. You are not mind.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Then you are independent of mind always.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: So even a person merged in the mode of ignorance can by some good fortune surrender to Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: No good fortune. God, Kṛṣṇa, says, "You do it"; you do it. Here, immediately you become fortunate. There is no question of waiting for becoming fortunate. You become fortunate immediately. Suppose if I say, "Take this bag, 100,000 dollars," you can take it. Immediately you become rich man. Why don't you take it?