Prabhupāda: From Manu we have come; therefore our name is mānuṣya, "man," from the word manu. That Manu is born of Brahma. Therefore he is called grandfather, pitāmahā. And Kṛṣṇa has been addressed in the Bhagavad-gītā, "the great-grandfather." So He is the father of Brahmā also. Ātma-yoni.
So this is the position of Brahmā. So he had to undergo so great austerity to understand his position, so how much austerity we have to perform to understand our position: "What I am? What is my business? Why I have come here? Why I am suffering?" Everyone is suffering, but we are so callous, so rascal, we don't take care of it. We say, "That's all right. I shall die peacefully." Yes. I met one very exalted, I mean, lord in London. Eh?
Haṁsadūta: Brockway. Lord Brockway.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes, Brockway. So, of course, we offered him prasādam very friendly. So I asked Lord Brockway, "What is the end of your life? How do you think?" He was eighty-four years old. So he said, "Yes, I shall die peacefully." And after death? "Oh, there is nothing. That's all." This is the idea. So actually people do not know what is going to happen after death. Therefore they are irresponsible. They are living like animals.
But śāstra says, "No, no, no. Don't do this. You have got responsibility." Nāyaṁ deho deha-bhājāṁ nṛ-loke kaṣṭān kāmān arhate viḍ-bhujāṁ ye (SB 5.5.1): "Don't live irresponsibly. This body," ayaṁ deha, "this body . . ." Deha-bhājāṁ nṛ-loke. Nṛ-loke means in the human society. Not cat society, dog society, fly society - in the human society. You should not live irresponsibly like the cats and dogs. It has especially mentioned, viḍ-bhujām: "the stool-eater, pig." "You should not be like the stool-eater, pig." Why this animal has been drawn? That means, stool-eater pig means the pig has no distinction of eating. Whatever is there, up to stool, he can eat. So if the human society has no discrimination of eating anything . . . Now I understand they're eating . . . they are killing their own child, and the child is also being eaten. Who was telling?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, I was telling.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Just see how much the human society has degraded. One side, they're killing their own child, and after killing it, they're cooking it, and it becomes a very good delicacy. Just see. So this is the surety of become a pig, less than a pig. You see? But they do not know. Na te viduḥ svārtha-gatiṁ hi viṣṇum (SB 7.5.31). This human life was meant for understanding Viṣṇu, God, but they did not use it. So thus, try to understand how much important is this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, how we are trying to save the whole human society from their irresponsible life.
So we have to undergo tapasya because our grandfather, he had to undergo tapasya. So anyone who is in this material world, Brahmā, beginning from Brahmā down to the ant, must undergo tapasya. But for the ant, cats and dogs, it is not possible. They are condemned.