Indian man (5): And Kṛṣṇa has promised definitely that He would appear whenever there is . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes, He has appeared, nāma-rūpe avatāra.
Indian man (5): So I think we are passing through a greater hell than what was . . . (indistinct)
Prabhupāda: No, no, the disease is there; the remedy is there. If you take the remedy, so there is no question of suffering from the disease. But you refuse to take the remedy. Just like this verse from Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, Twelfth Canto. This Kali-yuga is the ocean of faults. Why should we lament for that? The remedy is there. Kīrtanād eva kṛṣṇasya mukta . . . (SB 12.3.51). You chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, you'll become relieved immediately. So why don't you take the remedy? Mām eva ye prapadyante māyām etāṁ taranti (BG 7.14). Why you are so much disturbed by māyā? Just surrender to Kṛṣṇa. So it is our choice. We do not do that, and we suffer. Mām aprāpya nivartante mṛtyu-saṁsāra . . . Kṛṣṇa is giving personally. He has taken you, and we are not accepting. What can be done? The knowledge is there, the process is there, the authority is there, all the ācāryas, they have accepted, but we are so stubborn, we'll not accept. That is the difficulty. We'll manufacture our own ways. Yato mata tato patha. That is the difficulty. So it is past six. Have some kīrtana.