Prabhupāda: . . . one is animal. So animal means ferocious. Dharmeṇa hīna paśubhiḥ samāna (Hitopadeśa). Paśubhiḥ samānaḥ They're as good as animal. You cannot expect any good behavior from animals. This is going on. They want to keep the whole population animal, and they're making big, big plans—United Nation, this, that.
Dr. Patel: This is a fraud. It's committed fraud on poor nations of the world, this United Nations.
Prabhupāda: There is no education for making people a human being.
Dr. Patel: Karl Marx, Hegel and all the Engels and those people have got this nonsensical idea that interaction of matter itself produces what we call consciousness. It is not the consciousness which, I mean, agregates the matter. The very first basis on which the whole this rascaldom is, I mean, the basis is this: revolting against the tenets of Hindu teaching. No?
Prabhupāda: Hindu-Muslim teaching . . .