Prabhupāda: People misunderstand this Kṛṣṇa's behavior with Rādhārāṇī and the gopīs as ordinary woman-hunters.
Indian man (2): No, no.
Prabhupāda: You say no, but they take it like that. Even a person like Vivekananda, he said long ago that "This Vaiṣṇavism is sex religion." They misunderstand. So just try to understand. This līlā is kept in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam in the Tenth Canto, and middle of Tenth Canto, Thirty-fourth, Thirty-fifth Chapter. So one has to understand Kṛṣṇa first of all. So it is not for ordinary men. So we discourage these things to be discussed or presented even for ordinary men. This is our preaching. It cannot be taken as ordinary film show.
Indian man (2): No, sir, he was taking it in different angle, that Kṛṣṇa as by these Vaiṣṇavas.
Prabhupāda: That's all right . . .
Indian man (2): That is the rasa. We are talking of the rasa-līlā.
Prabhupāda: Rasa . . . that is not for ordinary persons. It is most confidential. So this has deteriorated. Otherwise, so many gentlemen come here, and India, they are asking, "What is God?" This is the question. "Why God was killed?" Yesterday this was the question.
Indian man (2): We also came. We were also there. And Mr. Karana was asking nice questions. Yesterday evening he was here.
Prabhupāda: So in India . . . You are born in India, where God comes as Lord Rāmacandra, as Lord Kṛṣṇa, as Lord Caitanya, and you are asking, "What is God?" So how much deteriorated you have become, just imagine. So we are trying to reform all this nonsense business, and how I can associate?
Indian man (2): No, no, we don't ask your association. We want your blessing.
Prabhupāda: How can I give my blessing? It is . . . I protest, rather. I protest, rather. You should not present this.
Indian man (1): No, this is about the activities of Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: No, no, you said Jayadeva's.
Indian man (1): We have taken some merely some lyrics of songs of Jayadeva.
Prabhupāda: That's all right. That is also dealing with the gopīs. Dehi pada-pallavam udaram. So these things are not ordinary things. You should understand that. If you make, propagate, then the people . . . I have seen one book one rascal Bhaṭṭācārya has written. And the United Nation or something like that supported, gave him, them, money. And in the cover of the book he has given a picture of Rādhārāṇī sitting naked. This is going on.
Indian man (1): No, sir, the pictures you were having, this rasa-līlā, this is also these very things. We have seen those pictures.
Prabhupāda: No, but . . . No, that's all right. That picture is in the book. That book is . . . We are translating Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. And what . . .
Indian man (1): No, even in mandir there is a big photograph of Rādhā, puspanna(?), Rādhā rasa-līlā.
Prabhupāda: That is not presented in that way. So we do not say . . . But these warnings that . . . It is . . . We must understand it is very confidential thing. It is not for ordinary men. If we present as ordinary thing, that is distortion. Our . . . I have got stricture that we don't present . . .
Indian man (2): (showing picture) This is our . . . Here. You made this. This is . . .
Prabhupāda: This is Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa. That's all right. But generally, gopīs, rasa-līlā and gopīs vastra-haraṇa-līlā . . .
Indian man (2): No, no. Vastra-haraṇa is not . . .
Indian man (1): All is concentrated—the Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa līlā.
Prabhupāda: No, no. Why don't you present . . .? Kṛṣṇa has so many līlās. Just like . . . Where is our Kṛṣṇa book? You have got?
Hari-śauri: I can get a copy.
Prabhupāda: Yes. There is . . .
Hari-śauri: Any volume, or . . .?
Prabhupāda: That . . . Kṛṣṇa is killing Kamsa.
Indian man (1): That is the final līlā of Śrī Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: Not final.
Indian man (1): No, we are having four things. We have an institution here. We are just presenting the Kṛṣṇa līlās part by part. First we are presenting the bāla-līlā, the children part . . .
Prabhupāda: So why don't you present Kṛṣṇa's fighting in the . . .?
Indian man (2): We will.
Prabhupāda: Just like Kurukṣetra.
Indian man (1): That is Mahābhārata. That is the part also.
Prabhupāda: That is also kṛṣṇa-līlā.
Indian man (1): For sure. So we have now produced three parts, and two more parts are there to be produced. (break)
Prabhupāda: Take prasāda. (pause) Generally . . . Of course, I do not know what you have done. Generally they present rasa-līlā, they describe rasa-līlā. These professional Bhāgavata means they immediately begin to recite rasa-līlā. Bhāgavata reading dissertation means rasa-līlā. And people take in a different way, that "Kṛṣṇa was woman-hunter. He married sixteen thousand wives, and He had three hundred thousand gopīs, and He was enjoying with woman. Just see." I saw one doctor. He was a debauch. He was Muhammadan. So his friend came. So . . . In Calcutta. So he was addressing, kibhava(?) Kṛṣṇa. Just see. Kṛṣṇa means debauch.
Indian man (2): No.
Prabhupāda: No, no, you don't mean, but people have taken like that. Anyone who is woman-hunter, he is Kṛṣṇa. This is going on.
Indian man (2): Therefore, Gurujī, we have started . . .
Indian man (1): This is the spiritual way we have started.
Indian man (2): Spiritual way, we started from that Vṛndāvana, with this Kṛṣṇa . . . Ātmā, Paramātmā (Hindi). Here to start. Then we'll go to that . . .
Prabhupāda: No, no. Why you start from this? Why not start Kṛṣṇa's birth, Kṛṣṇa's playing with cowherd boys, Kṛṣṇa's . . .?
Indian man (1): So we have that līlā. That is bāla-līlā.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Indian man (2): Then here Kṛṣṇa . . . The spring has come, and this is . . . You have got here the Govardhana-pūjā, and Kṛṣṇa's līlā with these cowherd boys, and they're going on. That is . . . (indistinct) . . . In the spring they are going out . . . Here, in Orissa also, in Bengal also. On the full moon day of Phalguṇa we get that goṣṭha, where all the cows meet together, and we get this. From that function we started. We have established that . . .
Prabhupāda: On the whole, my point is: it is a very difficult subject matter. So unless we very carefully deal, people will misunderstand.