Indian devotee: Now there is a society for prevention to the cruelty to animals. At the same time they are killing the animals also.
Mahāṁsa: They think they can adjust and control.
Prabhupāda: Mūḍha.
Indian man: There is a preordained karma that says some human being should come into existence or some spirit soul should take some body.
Prabhupāda: Transmigration.
Indian man: How can you reconcile this birth control with that?
Prabhupāda: Birth control—by brahmacārī. You become brahmacārī.
Indian man: No, by this contraceptive and otherwise.
Prabhupāda: That is most sinful activity. Birth control should be done by restrained sex life.
Indian man: That is one way.
Prabhupāda: That is the way. Other way all sinful.
Indian man: Sinful, but sinful things are being committed...
Prabhupāda: They'll suffer. They'll suffer. Those who are killing the children, they will be killed. They will enter into the mother's womb and they will be killed. They'll be punished. Tit for tat. That they do not know. This way or that way?
Indian man: This way. This way.
Prabhupāda: These rascals, they have no education about this law of nature. Prakṛteḥ kriyamāṇāni guṇaiḥ karmāṇi sarvaśaḥ (BG 3.27). They're acting very independently. But ahaṅkāra-vimūḍhātmā kartāham iti manyate (BG 3.27). Rascals, ahaṅkāra, vimūḍhātmā. They are rascals. They'll be punished. Just like a thief defies the laws of government, but they are punished.
Indian man: Today it's a matter of greatest coincidence. Yesterday got up early in the morning to go for a walk. I thought of Hare Rāma, Hare Kṛṣṇa, then I met you today. Of course, I have no, myself and my wife are life members. We come sometimes, but morning chanting for me rather, it didn't happen. Today it happened and I met you today.
Prabhupāda: Thank you very much. Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Passerby: Hare Kṛṣṇa.