Prabhupāda: So it is not acintya, it is cintya.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yeah. We, we perceive that..., that these laws exist, but how these laws existing we do not know.
Prabhupāda: That is another thing, but you have to admit that they..., it exists.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yeah, it exists.
Prabhupāda: Similarly, we have to accept, then, the soul exists.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yeah. In fact, that is the point that we are also bringing. The soul in the...
Prabhupāda: Exists. The soul exists, the mind exists, the intelligence exists, although they are not perceivable by these gross senses.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: And the consciousness exists.
Prabhupāda: Everything exists. That we have to place in your scientific discussion, how this subtle situation carrying the soul. Above that subtle situation is gross situation. That is this body. So they are stressing on the gross situation, but subtle situation they have no knowledge, but it is perceived daily.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: That is true.
Prabhupāda: Hmm. That we have to talk. The subtle situation can carry the soul to the spiritual world. As there is spirit and matter, two things, aparā and parā, that is we can perceive, and we get it from Kṛṣṇa's statement, aparā parā. So in via media between this parā and aparā, I have this subtle situation. So if the subtle situation is spiritualized, then we are..., the soul is transferred to the spiritual world. This we have to prove, or have to write in scientific journal. They are seeing simply the gross situation, but the soul is being carried by the subtle situation. Therefore they are thinking this gross situation, body, is finished, everything is finished. That's not the fact.