Somebody asked me . . . that, I think, Mr. Moscowitz asked me this question; I answered this point. His enquiry was, "How long it will take to be perfect in Kṛṣṇa consciousness?" So I replied that Kṛṣṇa consciousness can be had in one second, and it cannot be had in thousands of birth and death. So why? But if we understand this principle that after attainment of full knowledge, I have to ultimately surrender to vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti, I have to become the, I mean to say, sa mahātmā, a great soul like that, why not immediately surrender to Kṛṣṇa? Why not become immediately the supreme, I mean to say, great soul, sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ? That is a process.
But we are, some of us, or most of us, we are not prepared to accept immediately Kṛṣṇa as the Supreme, or we have got many doubts. Therefore, in order to drive away, dissipate all your doubtful ideas, the śāstras, the scriptures, the Bhagavad-gītā and Śrīmad-Bhāgavata, are there, and if we make scrutinizingly study of these two books, we can understand the Kṛṣṇa science very nicely, and our progress in the matter of Kṛṣṇa consciousness will be definite.
Thank you very much. If there is any question, you can ask. (break)
Brahman and Supersoul, we have been discussing this morning. Perhaps just we began the verse and you have forgot. Just like myself, I am soul, the spiritual soul. My place is within this heart. Now, in the medical science, they have found it that the heart is the center of all vitality of this body. The, I mean, modern materialistic science, they have found that whatever we are eating, it is going to the stomach and it is being transformed into various types of secretions, and the important secretion is coming to the heart and it is becoming red by coming to the heart. Then again from the heart there are many veins; it is being distributed to different parts of the body. So . . . but they could not found that where is the point where from this vitality is coming. Where from this vitality is coming, they could not find it. They have localized that "Here is the source of all energy."