Indian guest (3): One more question, Swāmījī. When a person gradually go along the path and have, in the process, have some achievements, don't you agree that chanting is not the only attachment, or rather to know Kṛṣṇa? He can . . .
Prabhupāda: There may be other methods. I can understand. But the śāstra says: "No other method will be successful." Kalau nāsty eva nāsty eva nāsty eva gatir anyathā (CC Adi 17.21). Karma, jñāna, yoga. So therefore three times stressed, nāsty eva. "By karma you will not be successful." Time is different. Just like you go to a drug shop, there are hundreds and thousands of medicines. They are all medicine, but the medicine which is prescribed by the physician for you, that is your medicine. So in this age this is the medicine. There may be other methods, they are all bona fide methods, but they will not be successful. This method will be successful. You have to take in that light.
Indian guest (4): Do you give any importance of coming in, sighting of the soul in the front, and can a person not act as a human being, but . . . (indistinct)
Prabhupāda: Well, you are in my front. You are a soul. What is the difficulty? Everyone, you are all souls. You are in my front. Simply you are dressed only. Suppose you come in a dress. You are my friend. Do I see your dress or you? Paṇḍitāḥ sama-darśinaḥ. Vidyā-vinaya-sampanne (BG 5.18). You are reading Bhagavad-gītā. You know all these things. When you are learned, you won't see the dress. You will see the soul.
Indian guest (3): My real object . . . still, I want to . . . the chanting would be the primary stage, but it is not the stage that it will stay on all the time for a person who is really seeing the truth.
Prabhupāda: No. If you take this process, you will come to the perfectional stage very easily.
Indian guest (3): But do you agree or not?
Prabhupāda: What is that?
Indian guest (3): That chanting is not the stage you have to preserve all the time or practice all the time?
Śyāmasundara: That as you become as more advanced in spiritual life, your chanting drops away.
Prabhupāda: No. no, chanting is eternal. After you become perfect, you will also chant more loudly.