Prof. O'Connell: We had a graduation ceremony today down at the University. I've just come up from it. Are you going to send any of your students to the University to get their doctoral studies so that they can teach at other universities? We'd be delighted if some would come this way.
Viśvakarmā: One boy, Garuḍa dāsa, is going to study in the University of Chicago for his Ph.D. in Sanskrit.
Prof. O'Connell: Good.
Prabhupāda: The real education is life. The gurukula means it is a way of life training. It is said that brahmacārī gurukule vasan dānta. This is the way of life: how to learn controlling the senses. Nowadays we have got school, colleges, universities, but this method is not there, how to become dānta. Method is different, that "You can do whatever you like; you simply attend class." That is not the way of life. This is tapasya:
- tapasā brahmacaryeṇa
- śamena ca damena ca
- tyāgena satya-śaucābhyāṁ
- yamena niyamena vā
- (SB 6.1.13)
This is tapasya. This can be done.
- kecit kevalayā bhaktyā
- vāsudeva-parāyaṇāḥ
- aghaṁ dhunvanti kārtsnyena
- nīhāram iva bhāskaraḥ
- (SB 6.1.15)
All these things, tapasya, can be executed simply by learning devotional service. Then everything is there. Kecit kevalayā bhaktyā. So we are describing these things in our books. If these books are made textbook . . . I think in some of the colleges they are making textbooks, our books, in Germany, in Hamburg University.