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The material nature has always existed. It was never created, and it will never be annihilated, and there is no other cause. It's simply an eternal fact

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"the material nature has always existed. It was never created, and it will never be annihilated, and there is no other cause. It's simply an eternal fact"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1976 Conversations and Morning Walks

One theory is that there has always . . . the material nature has always existed. It was never created, and it will never be annihilated, and there is no other cause. It's simply an eternal fact.

Prabhupāda: . . . kinds of rascals.

Hṛdayānanda: One theory is that there has always . . . the material nature has always existed. It was never created, and it will never be annihilated, and there is no other cause. It's simply an eternal fact.

Prabhupāda: But how always existed? Nothing here ever exists . . . this house was never existed. It's created.

Hṛdayānanda: But the elements existed.

Prabhupāda: Elements exist, that's all right, but the format, how it is created?

Hṛdayānanda: They say it's not created. It's an eternal, unexplainable fact.

Prabhupāda: (laughs) Then he is a foolish. Then he is rascal. Immediately rascal is captured.

Indian man: Śrīla Prabhupāda? (Hindi) (break)

Prabhupāda: Unexplainable, that means why he is trying to explain, rascal? Immediately captured.

Harikeśa: You may all laugh now, but in the future we're going to find a solution.

Prabhupāda: That is another rascaldom. "I am rascal, and future I am going to be very intelligent." Talk of presence. You are, at the present moment, you are rascal. That's all. Don't talk. Rascal cannot talk.

Hṛdayānanda: Another theory which is taught . . .

Prabhupāda: So this theory is rascaldom. Then another theory . . .?

Hṛdayānanda: Is that actually God created everything, but after creation God is no lon . . .

Prabhupāda: No, then . . . no, that's all right, "God created everything." That means acceptance of God. Then we come to the science of God, what is God.

Hṛdayānanda: Well, God created, but now God is . . .

Prabhupāda: Don't imagine. I am asking what is the current theory.

Hṛdayānanda: Yes, that God is . . . God now is in a dormant condition.

Harikeśa: God is dead.

Prabhupāda: God is dead. After creating, He is dead.

Harikeśa: He used Himself up.

Prabhupāda: Eh?

Hṛdayānanda: No, but, no, they say . . . no, that's not what they say. They say that God created, and now God is in a dormant condition.

Prabhupāda: Whatever condition, there is God. That you have to accept.

Hṛdayānanda: Yes.

Prabhupāda: Now, what is that God?

Hṛdayānanda: Well, God does not directly take part in the material creation. He simply created.

Prabhupāda: That's all right, but He creates by His energy. Just like I am creating this institution, but I am not doing directly, but my men or my assistants, they are doing it. (trumpeting sound) What is this sound?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Intercom.

Prabhupāda: So why this intercom? Inter . . .?

Hṛdayānanda: To speak from one room to another.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: It connects the pūjārī room and . . . it connects the pūjārī room, the office, your secretary, and up here, Bhavānanda Mahārāja. (break)

Prabhupāda: . . . accepted, now He created and that . . . what is that next? Explain.

Hṛdayānanda: Now God is dormant, in a dormant condition.

Prabhupāda: What is that dormant?

Hṛdayānanda: He has no more activity. He simply created, and now He has no more activity.

Prabhupāda: Well, "no more activities," that's all right, but He is active. Suppose I am walking. I may not walk half an hour. That means I have got the capacity of walking. That you cannot say, that my walk . . . because I have now stopped walking, you cannot say that I cannot walk. Is another nonsense. How you can say "dormant"? He is active.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Dormant implies He was active.

Prabhupāda: Yes. Was active, He is active, but you, you rascal, you cannot see. You cannot say, "Once He was active. Now He is no more active. He has finished His activity." That you cannot say. Dormant? What do you mean by dormant? Huh? Dormant means potential. He can act. And He is acting. That acting, you have to learn how He is acting. He appears to be not acting, but He is acting. That is knowledge. Just like aeroplane is running. A intelligent man knows that "The pilot is there. He is acting. Therefore it is running." And a foolish man will say, "The aeroplane is going automatically." That is the question of observation. A foolish boy . . . I have given this example many times, that I was thinking that in the fan there is a ghost. But the idea is, there must be somebody. Although I was a child . . . I could not explain how the fan is running in my childhood. I was thinking there must be some ghost. And in the gramophone box I was thinking there must be one man within this box. So this is foolish thinking, but I was convinced that without somebody, it cannot sing or it cannot run. Even one is very innocent child, he can think like that. So whole thing is going on, prakṛti, the activities of material nature . . . Just like there was cloud and rain. Now it is not raining. So there is activity already. It is being managed. So you cannot say that God is dormant. He is acting because His creation is acting, and God says that mayādhyakṣeṇa prakṛtiḥ sūyate sa-carācaram (BG 9.10): "Under My direction the nature is working." How you can say He is dormant? The nature is working.

Page Title:The material nature has always existed. It was never created, and it will never be annihilated, and there is no other cause. It's simply an eternal fact
Compiler:SharmisthaK
Created:2022-09-15, 16:29:58
Totals by Section:BG=0, SB=0, CC=0, OB=0, Lec=0, Con=1, Let=0
No. of Quotes:1