Prabhupāda: Vedas there are. Yes. But what is the purpose of Veda? The purpose of Veda is to understand God. If you do not understand God . . . just like the Ārya-samājīs. They are concerned with Vedas, they say. But they do not know what is God. They say, "I am God." This is their knowledge. If he is God, who is going to worship him? Nobody comes to kick on his face, and still he says, "I am God." This is going on. How you become God? Who worships you? But still he will say: "I am God." You see. Such foolishness is going on. Ārya. Ārya means advanced, and this is their advancement. Ārya means advanced, and this is their advancement that they think, "I am God." Just see. Everyone can think like that. Then what is the use of advancement? This is going on. (break) . . . sarvair aham eva vedyaḥ (BG 15.15). Veda means knowledge. So the ultimate knowledge is to know God. But if you do not know God, then what is the value of your knowledge?
Indian man (3): Quite right.
Prabhupāda: If you say like a rascal that "I am God," is that knowledge?
Indian man (3): It's no knowledge at all.
Prabhupāda: Huh? Still they claim they are advanced Āryans.
Indian lady: And Vallabhācārya?
Prabhupāda: Vallabhācārya, he was a Vaiṣṇava. He worships Kṛṣṇa, Bāla-Kṛṣṇa. That's all right.
Indian lady: (Hindi)
Prabhupāda: Ah, yes.
Indian man: (Indian man asks Prabhupāda if he speaks Gujarati in Gujarati or Hindi)
Prabhupāda: Na Gujarati, ne. Hindi I can. (break) . . . the four sampradāyas: Rāmānuja, Madhvācārya, then Viṣṇu Svāmī. Vallabhācārya belongs to the Viṣṇu Svāmī group, and we belong to Madhvācārya, so there is no difference.
Indian man (3): She's a very staunch believer in Vallabhācārya and Devaputi Mahārāja.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Mostly Gujaratis are Vallabhācārya follower. I know that. That is good. So you are worshiping Bāla-Kṛṣṇa? You are worshiping Bāla-Kṛṣṇa?
Indian man (3): Bāla-Kṛṣṇa, yes.