Prabhupāda: Yes. This is this philosophy. This philosophy is prominent all over the world. They are . . . "So long this body is there, enjoy it to the utmost. And after death everything is finished." Bās.
Dr. Patel: Yavaj jīvaṁ sukham . . .
Prabhupāda: Sukhaṁ jivet.
Dr. Patel: . . . kṛtva ghṛtaṁ pibet . . . (indistinct)
Prabhupāda: Kutaḥ punar agamano abhavet.
Nanda-kumāra: Harikeśa, he is feeling sick. He has a bad headache. (break)
Prabhupāda: . . .you have come? As soon as he has come, he is feeling headache. (laughter) And pain in the stomach is very good disease. Nobody can see. (laughter) If I say, "I am feeling headache," you cannot see. I can sleep very nicely. And pain in the stomach you cannot see. These two diseases are beyond the physician's limit.
Indian man (3): And these are common disease.
Dr. Patel: No, no, as a matter of fact, if there is a continuous headache, we can give him a number-one needle. Then his head will be cured. Then he will say, "I am all right sir. Now don't do it," with this much of needle inside. (break)
Prabhupāda: The first cultural education is how to teach the small children to become purified, brahmacārī.
Dr. Patel: In ancient times it was done by association in gurukulas.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is required, gurukula. We are starting, therefore, gurukulas. And it is becoming . . .
Dr. Patel: Gurukula. Kula of guru.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Brahmacari guru-kule vasan danto guror hitam (SB 7.12.1). This is the beginning. A brahmacārī should live in the aśrama of guru, danta, self-controlled, and only for the benefit of guru, not for anyone's benefit. Brahmacārī guru . . . they'll go, collect alms, and everything should be delivered to guru.
Dr. Patel: When Kṛṣṇa was sent to collect the wood.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Guror hitam. The brahmacārī life means only for the benefit of guru. Everything is there in Bhāgavatam.
Dr. Patel: That mode of teaching, I mean . . .
Prabhupāda: That can be introduced.
Dr. Patel: . . . in a different way is there in America, sir. The American professors keep boys with them. They imbibe in them complete spirit of their educa . . . I mean, their mode of . . .
Prabhupāda: I don't think so.
Dr. Patel: Not this; I mean, the material. But that is the way they do it. That is why their method of education is better than others.
Prabhupāda: They drink.
Dr. Patel: Drinking is different story. I talk of the general mode of education, the way.
Prabhupāda: No. Here are Americans. Is that the education? I don't think so.
Dr. Patel: No, postgraduate education is like that. Not undergraduate. The postgraduate boys are living in close contact with the professors for the research.
Brahmānanda: Only a few schools.
Dr. Patel: Ah, but there are. The research is . . .
Prabhupāda: No, the professor is also drunkard.
Dr. Patel: Then he may be a drunkard.
Brahmānanda: They drink together. (laughter)
Dr. Patel: That's right. That is right.
Prabhupāda: The professor goes to hell, and the student also goes. That's all. (laughter)
Indian man (3): This is their close association.
Dr. Patel: You see, that is the way they . . .
Prabhupāda: So you know that story, that one man was drinking, so his friend told him, "You are drinking. You will go to hell." "Oh, my mother drinks." "Oh, she will also go." "My father drinks." "Oh, he will also go." "My brother drinks." "Oh, he will also go." "Then where is hell? (laughter) Father, mother, brother, myself, if we live together, then where is hell?" (aside:) Hare Kṛṣṇa. Jaya.