Acyutānanda: No, their idea is that they want to blame God for their predicament, like a bad child, you know, says, "Well you made me do it."
Sudāmā: "What can I do?"
Prabhupāda: No, they say, "Why you gave me birth?" They say like that.
Sudāmā: Cursing almost. Almost.
Guru-kṛpā: Also the atheistic people sometimes argue, "What does your Kṛṣṇa do for the suffering people?"
Guru-kṛpā: "What does He do? Why doesn't He come down and help the poor people? They are suffering."
Acyutānanda: I tell them there's...
Guru-kṛpā: "Why doesn't He come and help them?"
Acyutānanda: In Andhra, I said, "There's so much land where they're growing tobacco. You could grow food." But in the Gītā, it says, "Once coming there, he never returns."
Prabhupāda: But if he likes, he can return.
Acyutānanda: He can return.
Prabhupāda: That independence has to be accepted, little independence. We can misuse that. Kṛṣṇa-bahirmukha hañā bhoga vāñchā kare. That misuse is the cause of our falldown.
Acyutānanda: In Kṛṣṇa book it says that there were some color fighting in Dvārakā. They were throwing color. And some men became lusty seeing the women. So is... Will that be the first part of their falldown, to be in Vaikuṇṭha and think of personal lust with Kṛṣṇa's associates?
Prabhupāda: Yes. (break) Whatever He likes, He'll do. That is God. God is not meant for satisfying you.