Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: The Holy Ghost is supposed to give knowledge to persons who have embraced the teaching.
Prabhupāda: Therefore He is seeing what you are doing. So according to your action, the Holy Ghost gives you another birth. (break) ...sarva-bhūtānāṁ hṛd-deśe arjuna tiṣṭhati. (break)...dictating everyone's heart, and He is observing. Bhrāmayan sarva-bhūtāni yantrārūḍhāni māyayā (BG 18.61).
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: (break) ...contends that if a person does not become fully aware in this lifetime of God, then they don't have another chance, and they are condemned to hell for eternity.
Prabhupāda: The hell or heaven doesn't matter. The next life is there. How you say "one life"? That is defective theory. Therefore this philosophy cannot be accepted. Anything which is defective is not to be accepted.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Simply dogma.
Prabhupāda: Yes. (break) ...rejected. That is Vedic process.
Hari-śauri: Actually, there's so many different understandings that the Christians have of the same thing. They all have different type of philosophy.
Hayagrīva: No, Christ never said that. Christ never said you only have one life.
Prabhupāda: So that is real philosophy. That is real philosophy.
Hayagrīva: This is the.... All of this evolved from the church fathers.
Prabhupāda: That is all defective, unscrupulous.
Rādhāvallabha: (break) ...come up to us on saṅkīrtana, and they are smoking a cigarette, and they say, "Do you accept Jesus Christ?"
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Rādhāvallabha: They say, "You cannot be successful unless you accept Jesus Christ like us." But they were smoking.
Prabhupāda: We accept. Rather, you do not accept. Jesus Christ said "Thou shall not kill." We strictly observe that, but you kill. You are not a Christian.
Hari-śauri: "But that's just an ideal, the Ten Commandments. You're not expected to follow."
Prabhupāda: No, that is your explanation. That is your concoction. (break) ...take it. As soon as you disobey Ten Commandments, you are not a Christian. You are heathen. (break) And the thing is that religious faith should not be discussed on philosophy because everyone has got some, his own concocted faith. That is not philosophy. Faith is different. "I believe," "You believe," "I do not believe"—that is not philosophy. (break) ...philosophy in Bhagavad-gītā that asmin dehe.... Dehino 'smin yathā dehe (BG 2.13), there is soul. This is philosophy. Religion without philosophy is sentiment, and philosophy without religion is mental concoction. So both of them should be combined. Then it is perfect.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: (break) ...can be given, though, that man's logic is so tiny, pea brain, and God's logic is so great, so how can actually man discuss the logic of God?
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: The argument is given that God is infinitely great.
Prabhupāda: Then don't discuss. Sleep. If you cannot understand God's logic and God's philosophy, then don't discuss. Stop discuss.
Rādhāvallabha: Jewish people say that you can't chant the name of God because it is too sacred.
Prabhupāda: Yes, too sacred, that's.... Actually that's a fact. And those who are too sinful, they cannot chant. (break) ...these ten kinds of offenses.
Rādhāvallabha: (break) ...that God has put the world here for us to enjoy, so we will please Him by enjoying it. (break)
Prabhupāda: You go at four o'clock to your working place and come at night, ten. Is that enjoyment?
Rādhāvallabha: But on the weekend we can go to the beach. And we can eat whatever we want.
Prabhupāda: No, no, you can go to hell also. Different thing.... (break) ...jarā-vyādhi-duḥkha-doṣānu. That is there. If you are suffering from disease, where is enjoyment? Mental discomfort, bodily discomfort. You are taking thrice pills for tranquillity. Is that enjoyment?
Rādhāvallabha: They say you have to take the good with the bad.
Prabhupāda: This nonsense enjoyment. Fool's paradise. For keeping the mind in tranquillity he is taking four times pills. For sleeping, he is taking pill. Does he enjoy that?
Rādhāvallabha: By suffering you can get a deeper appreciation...
Prabhupāda: Then what is enjoyment? Suffer. Then why is called enjoyment? By suffering you can.... (too much static-end)