Hṛdayānanda: ...there are more, probably at least a hundred thousand, and at least, maybe three hundred thousand, their home was destroyed. Small country, just...
Hṛdayānanda: In my zone there are many countries that are always being hit by earthquakes, tidal waves, floods, repeatedly.
Prabhupāda: Yes. So, what is to be done?
Hṛdayānanda: We'll go afterwards and preach there.
Hṛdayānanda: We will go afterwards and preach there. There is another country right next to it...
Prabhupāda: Tell them that if you take to Hare Kṛṣṇa, then these things will not happen. Tell them.
Hṛdayānanda: Yes. In Caracas, where you visited, about less then ten years ago there was a big earthquake and many big skyscrapers fell into the earth, completely disappeared.
Hṛdayānanda: The whole skyscraper just fell into the earth, gone. That was in Caracas. They said that after that people became more pious. During the earthquake they were screaming to God, "Have mercy, have mercy."
Hṛdayānanda: Another country, Nicaragua, just a few years ago there was a big earthquake, and the capital city was entirely destroyed. It was all gone, the entire capital.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I have experience of an earthquake, Prabhupāda.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I was in one in Mexico. And I was... It was at night. When the earthquake happened I was completely thrown right out of my bed.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I was thrown right out of the bed by the earthquake. It shook the building so much, the whole building shook, that I was thrown right out of the bed. Fortunately, that building I was in, it only sagged, but other buildings completely collapsed. The building was left slanting, though. We had to all evacuate the building.
Hṛdayānanda: So it reminds us of the Kṛṣṇa book, because in Caracas, when there was an earthquake, the whole sky became dark, and there were great roaring sounds in the sky.
Hṛdayānanda: In Caracas. Great roaring sounds, and the sky became dark, no one could see, and then everything began to...
Prabhupāda: When it was?
Hṛdayānanda: Less than ten years ago.
Hṛdayānanda: Eight years ago, perhaps. My zone is very well known for that. Many times they have these disasters, and thousands of people are killed.
Prabhupāda: So you can stop these things by chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Hṛdayānanda: When the capital was destroyed, the president of the country... He is named Samosa.
Hṛdayānanda: This country's president's name is Mr. Samosa.
Prabhupāda: What is that samosā? Our samosā?
Hṛdayānanda: (laughter) No. (break) ...two British planes came with medicine, and they wouldn't let the planes land because they have some diplomatic quarrel with England. So they preferred their own people die to save the diplomatic purpose. Also another country sent supplies to help, and they said that it was stolen. They don't know where it went.
Hṛdayānanda: Another plane from another country came, and when they delivered all their supplies they said that everything was stolen. They don't know where it went.
Hṛdayānanda: Yes. The medicine was all stolen. Also, the government was making many people work hard due to the disaster, and when the people...
Prabhupāda: So they are suffering from disaster. Again work hard. Just see how benefit.
Hṛdayānanda: Yes. And when the people said to the government, "You should pay us," they said, "No, we cannot pay you, and if you don't work, we will cut off your food."
Prabhupāda: This is Kali-yuga. Durbhikṣa-kārāpīḍita. One side, government disturbance, one side, no food, and they let them live very happily. That's all. This is their conception of happiness. Tactation..., taxation, and no food, and natural disturbance.