Supreme God, the supreme controller, is not controlled by anyone. I am controlling, but I am being controlled by somebody else. That is God. So therefore we have to admit . . . we must admit that we are not free. We are controlled

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"supreme God, the supreme controller, is not controlled by anyone. I am controlling, but I am being controlled by somebody else. That is God. So therefore we have to admit . . . we must admit that we are not free. We are controlled"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1974 Conversations and Morning Walks

Geneva, there are varieties of living entities and also houses and mountains. So two things: animate and inanimate. One section, animate; another section, inanimate. So we are small gods, or īśvaras. We may control the government and the management of the street and parks and everything, but we are controlled by the supreme. But supreme God, the supreme controller, is not controlled by anyone. I am controlling, but I am being controlled by somebody else. That is God. So therefore we have to admit . . . we must admit that we are not free. We are controlled. Eh? By superior power or superior controller we are controlled. Therefore our duty is to be controlled according to His desire.

740605 - Conversation A - Geneva

Prabhupāda: That is admitted? Anything, anything. Just like the big 747 plane is flying, but the important thing is there, the pilot. So the motorcar, big motorcar, big machine, is moving, but the important thing is the operator. So if you study that the matter is simply an agency of movement—real mover is the spirit—you have to admit.

Yogeśvara: Yes, they are willing to.

Prabhupāda: Then the whole cosmic manifestation, this material nature, there must be also the moving force. That is God. Now, just like within this body I am the person and under my command the body is going, working. I am asking the hand, "Please come here." Immediately . . . so I am also īśvara, means controller. So far this body is concerned, I am the controller. Similarly, the supreme controller, He is called parameśvara, "the supreme controller." That is God.

Yogeśvara: (to Guru-gaurāṅga) You can translate that?

Guru-gaurāṅga: (translates)

Prabhupāda: So there are two īśvaras. I am also īśvara. So far my this body is concerned or my family is concerned, I am controlling. But the supreme controller, He is controlling everything. That is God. So those who are atheists, they must accept that there is the supreme controller, and He is God. So God is controlling everything. There are two things—material and spiritual. We have got experience. Suppose in this city of . . .

Swiss man (4): Geneva.

Prabhupāda: . . . Geneva, there are varieties of living entities and also houses and mountains. So two things: animate and inanimate. One section, animate; another section, inanimate. So we are small gods, or īśvaras. We may control the government and the management of the street and parks and everything, but we are controlled by the supreme. But supreme God, the supreme controller, is not controlled by anyone. I am controlling, but I am being controlled by somebody else. That is God. So therefore we have to admit . . . we must admit that we are not free. We are controlled. Eh? By superior power or superior controller we are controlled. Therefore our duty is to be controlled according to His desire. So if we agree to be controlled by the Supreme, that is perfect life. And if we do not like to come to be controlled by the supreme, that is sinful life. And this is the perfect knowledge.