Pṛthu: (break) ...where these hellish worlds are? She asks you where these hellish worlds are?
Prabhupāda: They're, they are different planets. (German)
Pṛthu: She wants to know how we know this.
Prabhupāda: From the books. (German) (break)
Pṛthu: So she feels... It seems that she feels a little bit attacked by this hellish worlds. So now she says that Jesus has come to save men and not to, to destroy them. So he says Jesus even came to the robbers and with a purpose to save them.
Prabhupāda: Well, but provided the follower abides by the order of Jesus. Jesus can save them if the man follows the Jesus order. (German) (break)
Pṛthu: ...say?
Prabhupāda: Jesus has given some instruction or not? (German)
Pṛthu: So he says that Jesus has given some directions and this is that we should love our brother in the same way as we love ourselves and that we should not do any harm to anyone.
Prabhupāda: But Jesus has said also those who are sinful, they'll go to hell? Is it not? Satsvarūpa?
Satsvarūpa: I can't think of any quote, but of course, that's the teachings of God the father.
Prabhupāda: Yes. (German)
Pṛthu: Yes, yes, she says that there is something like eternal condemn in the Christian teachings, like Jesus said.
Prabhupāda: Eternally hellish life.
Pṛthu: Yes.
Prabhupāda: So then why she says that everyone will go, peace? (German) (break)
Pṛthu: She makes no... She said that if she could listen to Jesus, what he said, formerly, then she would know, but she says actually one cannot believe it so much because can anyone believe that he has made the dead Lazarus... This was a person who already died, and Jesus came and gave him life back. So she says nobody can believe that, that Jesus has made this dead Lazarus...
Prabhupāda: I don't follow. What is that?
Satsvarūpa: She, from what he says, she does not actually believe in Jesus.
Prabhupāda: Who?
Satsvarūpa: This lady. She says that who can be sure of what Jesus actually did because he was...
Prabhupāda: Then why, why she quotes Jesus? If she does not believe in Jesus, why she's giving evidence from Jesus? (German) (break)
Pṛthu: She says like if she makes a comparison like if today there is a car crash, then all the people will say something different and the information will differ from the original car crash. So she says, in the same way, what Jesus did and said is now twisted around so nobody can actually give...
Prabhupāda: That means everyone has rejected Jesus. (German) (break)