Prabhupāda: This is Central Park still?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, Central Park West, it's called.
Prabhupāda: This is not education. Everything is killing. Therefore we are supposed to deal with all madmen. They are thinking that they are constructing such big, big buildings, they are the most exalted persons, but we take them as mad.
- piśācī pāile yena mati-cchanna haya
- māyā-grasta jīvera haya se bhāva udaya
Ghostly haunted. A person ghostly haunted, as he does, acts, similarly, anyone who is under the clutches of māyā, he acts like this. (break) ...this church, I came. They purchased one set of books. And one lady, Mrs. McGuire I think, she arranged this meeting. Underneath there is subway. I was sitting there and the subway sound was cut-cut cut-cut cut-cut. So I asked what is this and they said subway. Within this building there is subway. I think they are repairing. What is this building? That museum?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This one? It's the Museum of Natural History.
Hari-śauri: Memorial of Theodore Roosevelt.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: This man Theodore Roosevelt, he was one of the presidents. He was a big hunter, he used to kill animals. And in front it says that he was famous for being a natural conservationist, protecting nature.
Prabhupāda: By killing.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: There's a big planetarium here also at this museum.
Rāmeśvara: Biggest in the world, I think.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, this planetarium is the most famous one, Heydn Planetarium.
Prabhupāda: So see how the planetarium is done.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, we should go, Rāmeśvara. Have you ever gone?
Rāmeśvara: Many years ago.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Should we go to see it?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: They use all kinds of lighting systems.
Prabhupāda: So you take the idea. We shall have to do that.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Wow. All right. They have a special projector.
Prabhupāda: Whatever it may be, we may take the idea and utilize.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: In our planetarium, Śrīla Prabhupāda, we want to actually show the different qualities of life on the different planetary systems also?
Prabhupāda: Yes, as far as possible. There is Siddhaloka, they can go from one planet to another without any machine, without any vehicle. Siddhaloka means, just like the yogis, they can go.
Rāmeśvara: Their body have..., they have wings?
Prabhupāda: No wings. We think only our ideas, that without wings nobody can fly.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That picture wasn't accurate.
Rāmeśvara: That was Gandharvaloka.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Prabhupāda said they don't have wings either.
Rāmeśvara: I know.
Prabhupāda: So you are purchasing this house?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, we thought you like it.
Prabhupāda: It is nice house. It is half or...?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, full. This one is very nice too.
Prabhupāda: This is also for sale?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I don't think, but it's very good for the temple, big.
Prabhupāda: Purchase the whole property. (out of car)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Seems like it's two different buildings. It is two different buildings. It's just the left side, corner building. In fact, the corner building may be a different one also. What, Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: She was speaking "You are threatening my dog"?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, she said "Don't touch my dog." She yelled at us, "Don't touch my dog."
Hari-śauri: He had a muzzle on. See this man here, Śrīla Prabhupāda? He's emptied out all the wastepaper baskets all over the grass, and now he's searching through to see if there's anything of any value.
Prabhupāda: What is valuable there?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Someone may have thrown something out which he could use. He's a bum.
Prabhupāda: Another madman. In Hong Kong I have seen, they are searching some food.
Hari-śauri: You can see in every big city, mainly older people, they go and look in all the rubbish bins.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Just like they'll find an empty bottle, and if they return the bottle to the shop, they'll get a deposit, ten or fifteen cents for a bottle deposit.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: In Māyāpur we've seen the little children coming looking for prasādam left over in the rubbish outside.
Rāmeśvara: This is one of the big problems in the world today. They don't know how to dispose of all the paper and garbage that they go through. They are selling so many goods, and then they have to throw away the packages. They don't know how to get rid of the garbage. They try to throw it in the ocean sometimes.
Prabhupāda: And for manufacturing the paper they are cutting so many trees and committing sinful life.