Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Prabhupāda, if Kṛṣṇa is the reservoir of pleasure, then what does He need us for? If Kṛṣṇa is all blissful, then what... We're so, it seems, incapable of pleasing Kṛṣṇa. He is so magnanimous. What does He need us for?
Prabhupāda: He does not ask for Himself. For you. If you come to Kṛṣṇa and enjoy with Him, that is your good. He is self-sufficient. He doesn't require.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Sometimes, Prabhupāda, when they see your Bhagavad-gītā, they say, "Oh, it is too big for me to read." They don't know that the purport.... They've never read.
Prabhupāda: Therefore I say that bring them, let them chant and dance and take prasādam. That, everyone will hear, agree.
Harikeśa: One who does that, he is preaching? One who arranges for chanting and dancing and taking prasādam, that is as good as preaching?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Śravaṇam, kīrtanam, arcanam—anything.
Harikeśa: These festival programs are very important.
Prabhupāda: (pause) You have to spend or waste gallons of blood before you can convert a person to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. It is so difficult task.
Cyavana: You have to spend?
Prabhupāda: Gallons of blood, waste.
Cyavana: In what way?
Prabhupāda: By talking with him, with the rascal and foolish. You tax your brain and spoil your energy, blood.
Harikeśa: Spend so much food.
Cyavana: So we should do that.
Prabhupāda: Unless you are not a preacher. You should be prepared. Yes. They cuts, sacrifices life, what to speak of wasting blood. Wasting life. This is preacher. Then he is recognized by Kṛṣṇa: "He has done so much for Me."
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Kṛṣṇa will give more and more energy.
Prabhupāda: He is going to die for Kṛṣṇa, and therefore he is recognized. Na ca tasmān manuṣyeṣu kaścin me priya-kṛttamaḥ (BG 18.69). You become immediately very dear to Kṛṣṇa. Your business is how to become very intimate to Kṛṣṇa. That will be served by preaching.
Cyavana: Would you like to hear this verse?
- na ca tasmān manuṣyeṣu
- kaścin me priya-kṛttamaḥ
- bhavitā na ca me tasmād
- anyaḥ priyataro bhuvi
- (BG 18.69)
"There is no servant in this world more dear to Me than he, nor will there ever be one more dear."
Prabhupāda: Who? Ya idaṁ para...
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: "For one who explains the supreme secret to the devotees, devotional service is guaranteed, and at the end he will come back to me."
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Sometimes... I've had one person. He complained, "Why is there no purport for this verse, 'There is no servant in this world more dear to Me than he, nor will there ever be one more dear'?"
Prabhupāda: No purport?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Yes. They have mentioned that there is no purport for this verse.
Prabhupāda: It is already explained. Anyone who is preaching...
Harikeśa: That verse is self-effulgent.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Yes.
Harikeśa: You are the purport.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Simply people are trying to find out ways that they don't have to surrender to perfect knowledge. They can go on enjoying in the material world.
Prabhupāda: Wanted... (indistinct) A little... (indistinct)
Harikeśa: I think you should preach every breakfast. Your appetite is very good.
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Harikeśa: Every breakfast you should preach. Then your appetite will be very good.
Prabhupāda: No, appetite or no appetite, I preach. (laughter) I do not preach for increasing appetite.
Devotee 2: Do you want this?
Prabhupāda: Hm? Yes. What is that?
Brahmānanda: This is lavaṇa-bhāskara (āyur-vedic medicine for increasing appetite).
Prabhupāda: Lavaṇa-bhāskara, it is? No. Yes. Yesterday night what did I take?
Harikeśa: At night you're supposed to take tripolin(?), no?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Harikeśa: At night Prabhupāda takes tripolin(?). After meals he takes this Bhāskara-lavaṇa.
Prahupada: But...
Brahmānanda: At night you took this one?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Harikeśa: No, at night he's supposed to take tripolin.
Prabhupāda: You follow. (end)