Devotee (6): If we save the common people by giving them prasādam, how can we save the impersonalists?
Prabhupāda: That will come later on. (break) ...ists will not come. They will never come because they do not believe in the personal feature of God. Unless very hungry, he will not come because he does not believe in prasāda, does not believe in God.
Bahulāśva: Just like yesterday those impersonalists wouldn't come on the stage. When they saw your opulent vyāsāsana and so many devotees offering your āratik, they realized if they came to the stage, they would have to sit at your feet. Therefore they wouldn't come. This one Swami Satchitananda... I have a friend who's a member of his movement. So this yogi told him that if you want to know how to receive the spiritual master you should go watch the Hare Kṛṣṇa devotees when they greet their guru at the airport... Then you will learn what is the proper way to...
Prabhupāda: Who says?
Bahulāśva: Swami Satchitananda told him that. (laughter)
Yadubara: He cannot give instruction, so he has to...
Prabhupāda: No, he was rejected. But then appealing, then he was reinstated.
Bahulāśva: They want the respect, but they cannot command the respect.
Prabhupāda: Yes, they... He was found implicated with some woman.
Bahulāśva: You explain, Prabhupāda, that the impersonalists have to again fall down to material activities.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Bahulāśva: So this Satchitananda, before he became yogi, he was an engineer. So in his spare time—I was asking this boy, "What does he do? What is his life like?" I was wondering what he lived like. So he goes to bed at 8:00 at night, and no one sees him until 8:00 in the morning. So I asked, "Was he asleep?" So he said no, that he's in some trance. And then during the day he works on cars. He collects old automobiles, old classical cars, and he takes them apart and puts them together for a hobby.
Prabhupāda: He cannot give up his old habit.
Bahulāśva: No. He cannot give up the engineering habit.
Baradrāj: About this Yogi Bhajan also, when I was in Delhi ...
Prabhupāda: Delhi?
Baradrāj: Yes, in Delhi, there was one cloth merchant there. And he asked me, he said, "Do you know this Yogi Bhajan?" I said, "Yes, he is very famous." He said, "Oh, he is my cousin. We used to be in the cloth business together. And he could not make enough money, so he decided to go to America." But his experience was, he was a train engineer actually, train.
Prabhupāda: Who?
Baradrāj: This Yogi Bhajan. So he said that he tried to get a job with one of the railroad companies, but because he was Sikh—he was wearing long beard and hair—they would not give him a job. They said, "You must shave up first." He said, "No, I cannot do this." So finally he decided that "Not only will I not shave my beard and hair but I will make hundreds of disciples..." (break)
Sudāmā: ...Prabhupāda, either of those associations, which is the highest?
Prabhupāda: Both are equal.
Sudāmā: Both are equal?
Prabhupāda: You have to associate with both. Guru-kṛṣṇa-kṛpāya pāya bhakti-latā-bīja (CC Madhya 19.151). Both guru's kṛpā and Kṛṣṇa's kṛpā, they must be joined. Then you will get. (break)