Prabhupāda: You make ourself. Because thirteen . . . you are making now thirteen. You make thirteen.
Devotee: No, actually there's twelve, and Bali-mardana is staying at the Press, and he is going to travel around. We want to increase and make more . . .
Prabhupāda: That's all right. That's all right. Bali-mardana will be stagnant.
Śyāmasundara: He can oversee some foreign press.
Prabhupāda: Yes, he has this book department. Book department and . . . they may move according to convenience, Bali-mardana and Karandhara. He has got also very responsibility—incense department, this department, that department. He has to purchase small houses. So big brain . . . (indistinct) . . . so similarly, you also think of the books. Everyone take great responsibility. Then we have to serve this mission in this way. The people are foolish; they have forgotten God. We are delivering them. Best service. And without God, it is all useless, zero, all this civilization. Zero. Whatever they are making advancement, it is all zero, all nonsense.
And actually it is. Now the priestly order supporting homosex. I was surprised. They are going to pass resolution for getting married between man to man. The human society has come down to such a degraded position. It is astonishing. When I heard from Kīrtanānanda Mahārāja there is a big conference for passing this resolution . . .
In India still, if there somebody hears about homosex (makes sound of breathing out), "Baaah . . . (indistinct) . . ." Homosex is there, but nobody will support publicly, it is so abominable. People are coming down, and this is the subject matter for priestly order? It may be subject matter for the legislator, but priestly order, they are discussing for one week? . . . (indistinct) . . . just imagine.
Phalena paricīyate, one has to study by the result. Not that superficially you show that, "We are very much advanced." Phalena: what is the result? Phalena paricīyate, your, that is in English word also, "End justifies the means." The end is this . . . (indistinct) . . . "We are going to support homosex." Getting married. There was many cases, the priestly order has actually got married.