Prabhupāda: They are taking. That example is already there. He finishes his childhood; he accepts boyhood. Why he has left childhood? Finish childhood. Finish. That's all. Why again bother?
Harikeśa: Force of time.
Prabhupāda: That means he is under the control of something higher, but he refutes, tries to avoid it. That cannot be avoided. A child must become a boy. Tathā dehāntara-prāptiḥ (BG 2.13).
Harikeśa: But the worst thing is that not only are they causing themselves trouble, but they cause it upon everyone else.
Prabhupāda: That is natural. Causing everyone else means the same group. Andhā yathāndhaiḥ. One who is blind, he can be cheated by another blind man. But one who is not blind, if the blind man wants to cheat him, that "I can help you crossing the room," he will laugh, that "This rascal is blind, and he has offered me to help me." We take this, that if a person is . . . We know that he is defective, his knowledge is imperfect, what knowledge he will give? Immediately reject him.
Harikeśa: He can give us knowledge on how to accelerate death.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Harikeśa: He can give good knowledge on how to accelerate death.
Prabhupāda: That is natural. There is no question of his accelerating. It is already going on in this world. (pause) So many things we have to discuss. Is it not? People are in darkness in so many ways. Therefore we have to take the standard knowledge.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Always comes to the . . .
Prabhupāda: (aside:) Little cold water. And our mission is to deliver them by giving knowledge. Āmāra ājñāya guru hañā tāra' ei deśa (CC Madhya 7.128). Our mission is not to keep men in darkness. Otherwise, "Let them go to hell, śūnyavādi. We don't . . ." No. They should not remain in that way. They should come to the real light. This is our policy. (pause)
Bhakti-caru: Śrīla Prabhupāda? Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja (Bengali). (offers obeisances and leaves)
Harikeśa: When we finish this description, our understanding of this description of the universe, and present it to the scientists and to the world, people will become astounded. (aside: huh?)
Prabhupāda: Yes. (break) (loud fan noise—indistinct) What is that jīva-bhūta? They are living entities. What is that jīva-bhūta? Jīva-bhūtāṁ mahā-bā . . . Yayedaṁ dhāryate jagat. Without that these jīva-bhūta, these material elements are developed? Where is that? Find out this verse.