Prabhupāda: . . .in a different style, that's all. (break) . . .money. These rascals are also after woman and money, in a different style. Asat eka strī-saṅgī (CC Madhya 22.87). Caitanya Mahāprabhu immediately rejects him, that "He's a rascal. He's after women." Immediately. Asat strī-saṅgī. Two kinds of rascal—nondevotee of Kṛṣṇa and woman-hunter—reject immediately. That is Caitanya Mahāprabhu's . . . The sannyāsa life is . . . What is that? Cent percent, no connection with woman. That is sannyāsa. What we have renounced? We have renounced . . . We are using the motorcar, we are using this machine, we are eating, we are sleeping in nice room—what is the renouncement? Only renouncement is no connection with woman. That is the real platform of renouncement. If one can renounce woman's connection, then he's liberated man. That is very, very difficult. (break) Except myself, they go for woman and money, that's all, in foreign countries. This is the position. This Vishnu, Vishnu . . . Vishnananda, Vishnu-ananda? Now what is that? One yogī is in Montreal?
Satsvarūpa: Vishnu-something-ananda.
Prabhupāda: He also is after women. That's all.
Satsvarūpa: Swami Saccidananda.
Prabhupāda: He is also.
Satsvarūpa: He was exposed with fourteen-year-old girl.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Just see.
Satsvarūpa: And Yogi Bhajan.
Prabhupāda: He is openly.
Satsvarūpa: Yes. He comes with his women.
Prabhupāda: He is openly. His philosophy is how to enjoy women, tantric.
Satsvarūpa: Yes. He advertises sex for . . . yoga for two. He has a special price that a couple can come and learn tantra-yoga in America. And then Guru Maharaj Ji, he married.
Prabhupāda: Tantra-yoga means they will have sex, and he will be able not to discharge. That is tantra-yoga. The woman likes a man who does not easily discharge. This is tantra-yoga. So he is teaching that art, or science. They will prove their tantric success that while sex there is no discharge.
Satsvarūpa: I spoke to one of them and said that for spiritual life you had to refrain from sex, and he said, "No. If you do this enough, then you will not have any more desire." Otherwise if you just refrain, that is not as thorough.
Prabhupāda: So many things going on. Very difficult to lead spiritual life.
- viṣayiṇām sandarśanaṁ atha yoṣitāṁ ca
- hā hanta hā hanta viṣa-bhakṣaṇato 'py asādhu
- (CC Madhya 11.8)
Actually one who is serious going back to home, back to Godhead—for such person, one should be niṣkiñcana, no connection with these material woman and money. Niṣkiñcanasya. (break) But I am not collecting money for sense gratification. For preaching work. Kṛṣṇa-sambandhe . . . Kṛṣṇa sabaya yāhā haya anukula, viṣaya boliyā tāhā haya phul.(?) The anything which is favorable to my preaching work, that is not viṣaya. Ta phul(?). Then that is mistake. Why the air is misty? That . . . (break) Similarly, you can kill. You have to see it, what for they are killing. Stalin was killing for his own sense gratification. He wanted to maintain himself in the position, and anyone going against him, he would kill. That was not for the citizens' benefit. For his own benefit. Therefore he's a criminal. Just like soldier is killing hundreds of thousands of other soldiers. He is being awarded, "Oh, you are brave." And as soon as he kills one man for his own—he is hanged. So we have to see what is the cause that Arjuna fought for Kṛṣṇa, he became a devotee. Bhakto 'si priyo 'si (BG 4.3): very dear friend. What is the business? To kill. There are different.