Prabhupāda: And one Englishman is giving me massage.
Maṇihāra: Yes, right.
Prabhupāda: This rascal criticizing. But they have come to me for money? They are poor or they are illiterate fools? They have come to me for money or some material gain? No. Unless they are convinced about the spiritual gain, why they should give me such service? They have no eyes to see.
Gargamuni: No, because in India, many Indians, when they approach a guru, they want something. But we didn't have to approach you for anything.
Prabhupāda: That is the speciality. The guru . . . one should go to guru to serve him as menial servant. That is acceptance of guru. That is required. Nīcavat. Nīca. Nīca means menial. Just like menial servant, he does everything. Similarly, to live with guru means to serve him as a menial servant. That is Vedic injunction. Nīcavat. You should not be puffed up that, "I am coming from such royal family, I am coming from such rich family." And that tendency is trained up from the childhood. A child does not know. Just like Pradyumna's son. You can engage him in any menial service. He does not discriminate. He's trained up. So this is gurukula. Very word is used, nīcavat. He gives service to the guru just like a menial servant. And this training being given from the childhood, he does not know what is low or what is high. His spiritual master asks to do something . . . even Kṛṣṇa went to the forest to collect some dry wood. Vasudeva's son, in royal family, but He had to go. And all of a sudden there was storm and . . . what is called?