Prabhupāda: That we get the information from Bhagavad-gītā. It is said, na yatra bhāsayate sūryaḥ (BG 15.6): there is no need of sunshine. So how it can be cold? Sunshine is required where it is cold, but there is no need of sunshine. Naturally, the conclusion should be it is neither cold, neither hot. It is enjoyable. Cold, heat, all troubles, they are in the material world. The spiritual world is simply blissful life, enjoying. Harer nāma harer nāma harer nāma eva kevalaṁ . . .
(break) As soon as the light is there, the darkness is gone. So why in the night there is darkness if he is light? Why in the night meeting these rascals require other light, electric light, if he is light? What kind of light he is? If he is light, at least they could save the expenditure of electric light. But why does he use electric light?
Prajāpati: He says he only sees light when he closes his eyes.
Prabhupāda: Close?
Prajāpati: Like this.
Prabhupāda: Anyway, close or open . . .
Devotee: It's inner light.
Prabhupāda: Oh. Inner light, not outward light.
Devotee: No.
Prabhupāda: Then he is not absolute. He is relative. He is relative. He is not absolute. So God is absolute, but you are relative. Therefore you are not God.
Hṛdayānanda: Just like Kṛṣṇa illuminated the house of the gopīs.
Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa . . . He does not accept Kṛṣṇa. That is rejected. Now we are talking about him. If he is light, why does he use the electric light? If he says: "The inner light," then you are relative. You see only inner side, not outside; therefore you are relative. Therefore you are not God. God is absolute. Antar-bahiḥ. One has to see light inside and outside. That is real light. If the light is checked by some material condition, that is not absolute light. That is electric light. As soon as you come to the condition, then it is relative. It is not absolute. (break) A man can be changed from barking to chanting, but dog cannot be.
(break) . . . is so powerful that as soon as there is sunrise, immediately darkness gone. Similarly, if the absolute light is there, if there is need of electricity, what kind of light it is? Even the relative light is so powerful that immediately darkness gone. So you are not as powerful as the relative light. So what kind of light you are? This should be the argument. You are cheating. You are not light; you are darkness. Our that slogan is, "Where there is God, there is no darkness." "Kṛṣṇa is like the sun, and nescience is like darkness. Where there is Kṛṣṇa, there is no darkness." Don't waste time with these rascals. Go on with your own business. You sold Bhagavad-gītā. (laughs) That is our profit. That's all.