Dr. Weir: Well, I think to each person his picture is different too.
Śyāmasundara: The idea there is that in spiritual activity everything is seen in relationship to God and if you serve God with your every activity...
Prabhupāda: Yes. The same example, just like this finger is part and parcel of body. So long it is attached with the body there's not activities. You cut it from my body, there's no activity.
Dr. Weir: Yes, but you've still got a body.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Dr. Weir: You've still got a body and you've still got some other fingers left.
Prabhupāda: No you can call it a finger, but it will not act as finger, it will act (indistinct)
Dr. Weir: No, but the others will. I don't see the need for your analogy.
Śyāmasundara: The God is there and we are His servants.
Prabhupāda: If you are part and parcel of God then we must be active in serving God. That is my analogy.
Dr. Weir: But I don't see the need for analogy. That statement is sufficient.
Prabhupāda: Why not? Why not? There must be a need. If you think, if you know that you're part and parcel of God then you must act for God.
Dr. Weir: You see, I would go the other way round and say that as long as I know that God is part and parcel...
Prabhupāda: You cannot (indistinct). God is the spirit and you are spirit. Therefore you have to take lessons from God. In the Bhagavad-gītā it is stated there mamaivāṁśo jīva-loke (BG 15.7), that these living entities they are My part and parcels. So, because part and parcel of God, therefore the part and parcel must be active on account of God. That is real life. Why stop activity? That is real life.
Dr. Weir: I fear Swami, if I may say so, without disrespect, that in some ways you're preaching to the converted and you only make it more muddled to me by giving analogies, don't you feel that at times?
Mensa Member: Yeah, I think the Swami's used to, probably used to talking to people that need this...
Prabhupāda: When there is a truth spoken by God that living entities are My part and parcel, mamaiva. Why shall I not give the analogy? How do part and parcel acts? I must give analogy. Otherwise how they can understand?
Dr. Weir: It's like some people...
Prabhupāda: For understanding analogy must be there. Analogy is created for understanding.
Dr. Weir: But not in the (indistinct) example. A lot of people try and give an analogy to explain entropy. Now, of course....
Prabhupāda: Now I do not know what other people give analogy, but my business is that we take it from Bhagavad-gītā that living entities are part and parcel of God. Therefore, just like this part and parcel of my body is active in relationship with this body but if it is cut off from the body, it is no more active. Similarly, those who are not active in rendering service to God, they're as dead as this finger cut off from the body. So they have to be awakened to that consciousness. Just like a tree, you cut it, it has no consciousness to protest. But, even an ant, a small ant, because it has developed consciousness, you try to kill it, it'll protest. Therefore the more consciousness you develop, you become active. That is nature's law. That is nature's law. Developed consciousness does not mean to become dead.