Śyāmasundara: Fire.
Prabhupāda: Fire, mind, intelligence, ego, these eight elements. Kṛṣṇa says that, "They are My energies." So things which are made by Kṛṣṇa's energy, how you can claim your property? Suppose a carpenter comes, you give him money to prepare some chair. The money is your energy. Now when the chair is prepared, he cannot claim that, "I have prepared this chair. It is my property." No. It has been made with my energy; therefore it is my property.
So if you make analysis of this whole cosmic situation, you will find that everything is made out of the energy of God. Then how you can claim that "I am proprietor"? This is false. Yes. This is called māyā. Just like we have seen in Calcutta when there was a upsurge during the transition state. Britishers are going off. There was a great Hindu-Muslim riot. Now they fought, Hindus and Muslims, and they died. After death, they're lying piles of dead body. No more Hindu and Muslim; it is simply lump of matter. But because they got a type of body, a type of mental situation, consciousness, they fought with one another, and then after death, no more claiming "Hindu" and "Muslim."
So this is called illusion. "I am American," "I am Indian," "I am Hindu," "I am Muslim," "I am this," "I am that"—these are all designation. Really what I am? I am pure soul, part and parcel of God. That is my identity. So people should be taught this science. As soon as one understands his constitutional position, his actual situation, then he says: "Oh, I am not this. I was struggling so hard under some misidentification."
Ambassador: Is there a movement to get this philosophy, or science, propagated in the colleges?
Prabhupāda: Yes. We are trying, but we . . .