Prabhupāda: Whether you have studied, and his proposal is, some money can be saved. The present management is going on, and if he takes little care... You said up to thirteen thousand?
Akṣayānanda: Right.
Prabhupāda: Can be saved. So why not let him do and let us see practically? If some money is saved, it is very... So you remain as president. How he manages, how he saves, you see. What do you think?
Akṣayānanda: Yes. First-class.
Prabhupāda: So is that all right?
Mr. Myer: Really, the fact is that the excess of expenditure is only (indistinct) thousand. So what... There are two positions we have to take. One is to increase the revenue, and one is also to curb our expenditure. These are two ways.
Prabhupāda: What is that? Come here.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He says in order to make that money, you have to do two things. One is decrease the expenses, minimize the expenses, and also maximize collections. Right now...
Prabhupāda: Maximize collect... If you increase collection, that money comes, extra.
Mr. Myer: Yes.
Prabhupāda: But by decreasing expenditure, you save money. That is real saving.
Mr. Myer: No, (indistinct) rupees is not the savings. At present the excess in expenditure only will come, as it stands now. So we have to find a regular means. It's very possible if some of the...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He's saying that whatever the case is, more money is being spent here than is being made.
Prabhupāda: So save it. First of all save it. More money, to increase, that is not difficult for us. We go to beg, "Please give us." We can get.
Akṣayānanda: So the idea is to save it.
Prabhupāda: Real thing is how to save it. In business circle they say, "To earn money is not difficult, but to spend money is difficult." That is intelligence. To earn money is not difficult because we do not earn. Whatever Kṛṣṇa gives, we take it. But if Kṛṣṇa's money is not squandered, misspent, that is intelligence. So we have to see first of all present... I know that. So much money is squandered. Just like the other day. To secure one eye glass... It is four annas' worth. We have spent at least twenty rupees. In this way our money is being squandered.
Mr. Myer: Actually, as you said the other day very rightly, what is really important now is to try and make things very common, you know, as Prabhupāda says...
Prabhupāda: To earn money, to bring money, is not difficult for us, but whatever money is being spent, if we can save money, that is intelligence.
Mr. Myer: Fortunately this is end of the year, so we can make a budget also from the first of this month.
Prabhupāda: No, no, whatever it may be, I want to see that, how the money is being saved. So far earning money, I can earn, even sitting here.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, I was just seeing today...
Prabhupāda: That is not problem.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: ...that you're just sitting here in Vṛndāvana, but every month you're getting ten thousand rupees.
Prabhupāda: And if I ask...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Without asking.
Prabhupāda: If I ask, I can get more money.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I was just looking today, and I noticed, every month, at least ten thousand rupees.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Therefore I say... It is practical. To earn money is not difficult, at least for me. But to save money is difficult thing, because that is not in my hand. So let us see how much money we save. Increase the income, that we can do. And there is no problem. I think this is a maxim that "To earn money is not difficult. To save money is difficult." Whatever property we have now made, Kṛṣṇa has given us. But now, to maintain this, to save this prestigious position, that is difficult. Little mismanagement, there may be so many difficulties. You are a businessman, so he knows very well.