Prabhupāda: (Hindi) Now Americans are seriously considering about this movement. There are so many writings.
Dr. Patel: You are... As a matter of fact, you are improving their lot. The present boys, in American universities, they are all LSD smokers. The other day I said that, and that boy said that LSD went from India and so I became violent. Forgive me. I felt sorry later on. Because I should not have expressed my temper before you...
Prabhupāda: No, the...
Dr. Patel: But I held in a little more temper than that also. When somebody tells a wrong thing.
Prabhupāda: No, this gañjā, gañjā went from here.
Dr. Patel: That, because it is produced in India.
Prabhupāda: Yes. And they made a chemical composition of gañjā. That is LSD.
Dr. Patel: No, no. LSD is not chemical. It is a synthetic.
Prabhupāda: Therefore similar effect. Because they are scientific. So instead of importing gañjā from India, they invented some chemical composition...
Dr. Patel: (indistinct) out of these boys. They smoke even in the classrooms, in their residences...
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Dr. Patel: ...in their university camps and everywhere.
Prabhupāda: Now it is going to be legalized.
Dr. Patel: Smoking?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Dr. Patel: Just like they have legalized the prostitution.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Anything... Because it is vote. Majority wants. "All right. Make it legalized."
Dr. Patel: All, they have...
Prabhupāda: Same thing here even. Majority wants to be godless. So government is following that. Therefore they are against our movement. (aside:) Hare Kṛṣṇa, Jaya. Namaskāra. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Now the vox populi. Majority wants to become drunkards. "All right, it is legalized." Majority wants prostitute hunters. "All right. It is legalized." This is government. No consideration of morality or religion. Majority wants, it must be given.
Dr. Patel: No, but, I mean, it is all... It must fall. There is no culture. This is a total degeneration of the humanity at large.
Prabhupāda: Yes. They must suffer. And they're suffering. Still, they're blind.
Dr. Patel: So-called followers of Christianity actually killing Christ every day.
Prabhupāda: No, no. Why do you take Christianity? Everyone. Everyone.
Dr. Patel: No, but they are majority. They...
Prabhupāda: Everyone. Your Hindus also.
Dr. Patel: We have degenerated because we have been ruled by foreigners for so many years. But these fellows, being so free in thinking and doing things, they...
Prabhupāda: You see. Following of religious principle does not depend on foreign rule or home rule.
Dr. Patel: That does...
Prabhupāda: Ahaituky apratihatā. This is the description. Sa vai puṁsāṁ paro dharmo yato bhaktir adhokṣaje, ahaituky apratihatā (SB 1.2.6). One who follows actually. Just like we are following some principles. It cannot be checked by anyone. We do not accept anyone.