Prabhupāda: ...in the procession?
Rāmeśvara: This bus is for carrying prasādam.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh. Maybe they should go in the procession though. That would look impressive, wouldn't it?
Prabhupāda: All our cars behind.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We could have had our twenty-five vans and eight buses.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Decorated, no?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Ādi-keśava Mahārāja, did you hear that? The three buses should go in the procession.
Prabhupāda: Full opulence.
Rāmeśvara: Full opulence.
Prabhupāda: Ṣaḍ-aiśvarya-pūrṇa.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What an idea!
Ādi-keśava: The buses are all going down there to take care of the prasādam.
Rāmeśvara: They're carrying the prasādam.
Ādi-keśava: And also to do the...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Cooking the poppers.
Ādi-keśava: And also do the treasury.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So I want three buses together in the...
Prabhupāda: All cars, also.
Rāmeśvara: The cars. (laughs) Some of the cars don't look appropriate. Some of the cars are used cars, they do not look very nice.
Prabhupāda: No, no. Good cars.
Rāmeśvara: The nice-looking cars.
Prabhupāda: Good cars. This car and the other van.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, yes, this car will be there. So that's nice. Three buses, Ādi-keśava, will you take care of that?
Ādi-keśava: And the nice-looking vans?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Did the other two buses arrive?
Ādi-keśava: I know only of the two that are here.
Rāmeśvara: (break) ...were just amazed at the dancing of Lord Caitanya. How Lord Jagannātha would stop His car just to see. It says that Lord Jagannātha is maintaining the whole universe, so who can carry Him? Only by His sweet will for His own pastimes can He be moved. And the cart that moves Him is as tall as Mount Sumeru.
Prabhupāda: Potamkin..., and what was that in Washington, Potomyer?
Devotees: Potomac.
Rāmeśvara: And you wrote that just like the cart of Jagannātha is compared to Mount Sumeru, similarly, in London they were comparing it to that statue of Lord Nelson.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Lord Nelson's column.
Rāmeśvara: Lord Nelson's column.
Prabhupāda: Rival to Nelson. They published, Guardian.
Rāmeśvara: The Guardian, yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Good newspaper.
Prabhupāda: It has become against.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Maybe because...
Prabhupāda: It is political.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Maybe because of that.
Prabhupāda: Only politics. So mean-minded, they have no idea even beyond politics.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: (japa) Where are the rathas now?
Ādi-keśava: They're starting to pull.
Rāmeśvara: Dhṛṣṭadyumna Mahārāja...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: There's one of them.
Rāmeśvara: The men are getting ready to pull them now.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, the tops are down though.
Rāmeśvara: For the wires. They have to be down to move them. Sixty men are already engaged in pulling the ratha carts.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Since five this morning.
Rāmeśvara: Sixty men.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Where are you going, Ādi-keśava?
Ādi-keśava: Well, they're pulling the cart up. Can't really go right down next to them. It's a very steep incline.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Ādi-keśava, can you just go and let us see the carts?
Rāmeśvara: Yes, just drive right up to it, they should wait.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They can wait for a minute. It's not budging, so there's no loss.
Rāmeśvara: No, they announced that this cart was not moving, and they needed fifteen more men. They announced that in the temple room.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Go down there, Ādi-keśava.
Prabhupāda: More fifteen men required?
Rāmeśvara: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Very big. Others have been moved?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No.
Rāmeśvara: Yes, all three are here.
Ādi-keśava: They weigh fourteen thousand pounds each.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: How do you like them, Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes, they are nice.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Strong? Strong enough?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Now it's going to move because you're here, Prabhupāda.
Rāmeśvara: Oh, they have mirrors on the wheels.
Ādi-keśava: Now they are moving.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Uh-oḥ, it's caught in the wire up there.
Rāmeśvara: That's..., in Philadelphia it was constantly catching.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: There are mirrors all over the wheels, Rāmeśvara.
Rāmeśvara: Yes, I see.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Where are the cāmaras?
Ādi-keśava: They have the cāmaras. They'll be put on afterwards.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Is this the small one or the medium size?
Ādi-keśava: This is the big one. (devotees shouting "Prabhupāda! Balarāma!")
Rāmeśvara: By chanting your name they are getting so much strength.
Satsvarūpa: They are chanting "Prabhupāda, Balarāma."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That's the best combination. There's Jayānanda leading the way.
Prabhupāda: Ah, the wheels are very nice.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Really. Jayānanda has made good for all the other wheels.
Ādi-keśava: This is the cart you will ride, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This is Lady Subhadrā's cart from Chicago. We borrowed it.
Ādi-keśava: It's our cart now.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Could have been painted, the wheels.
Rāmeśvara: Thick coat of lacquer or varnish.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: On the wheels.
Rāmeśvara: Yes, right on the wood.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That's the only place that was varnished in Philadelphia? The rest is painted, right?
Rāmeśvara: I believe so.
Ādi-keśava: Simply by your presence, Śrīla Prabhupāda, the carts will move.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Those look like good ropes.
Ādi-keśava: He said they are made out of some nylon, very strong.
Rāmeśvara: Lord Jagannātha was carried by...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Wheels are all right?
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Wow, they are painted nicely. It's going to be a very attractive ceremony.
Prabhupāda: So all the cars should go also, behind.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We have some..., I think we have a lot of good vans here, Rāmeśvara.
Rāmeśvara: We can arrange for it at prasādam. That's the time when everyone should be there.
Prabhupāda: Jaya. (laughs) Hare Kṛṣṇa. Very nicely made, everything.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Jaya. Thank you for your blessings, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Look at those spires! Prabhupāda, do you see that spire? There's a spire at the top.
Rāmeśvara: Right at the top, right under the canopy on that cart.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: It's going to be placed on top.
Rāmeśvara: And that must be a flag on top.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Golden colored?
Rāmeśvara: Like gold.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Huge spire.
Prabhupāda: Not very heavy?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: The spire? No, it's made of foam, that, styrofoam. It couldn't weigh more than five, ten pounds.
Rāmeśvara: But it looks very,
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: It looks very heavy though. That's a good idea, because it won't weigh the canopies down.
Rāmeśvara: That's a very good idea.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Carve it out of styrofoam. It's a big festival. The first year three chariots.
Rāmeśvara: Whew! They're going to simply be astonished when the public sees this. The newspapers, they will just be..., they've never seen anything like it. They cannot imagine it.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: How big are those wheels, Rāmeśvara?
Rāmeśvara: Oh, they must be at least eight feet.
Ādi-keśava: Seven and a half.
Rāmeśvara: Seven and a half feet.
Prabhupāda: Jaya. Jaya.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: There's the park.
Prabhupāda: Very nicely made.
Devotees: All glories to Śrīla Prabhupāda! Jaya!
Prabhupāda: Jaya.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Jayānanda looks exhausted.
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He's worked so...
Rāmeśvara: Staying up all nights, working.
Ādi-keśava: For five days he hasn't gone to sleep.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Five days and nights he's worked continuously.
Prabhupāda: Jaya. (break)