Revatīnandana: "When a person is actually in the knowledge that Kṛṣṇa is the fountainhead of everything, then to act in that spirit is to act for everyone."
Prabhupāda: Yes. If we can understand . . . just like if you are affectionate to his father . . . to your father, then you naturally become affectionate to your brother. They are preaching universal brotherhood, but "Where is the father, sir?" "Oh, father is missing." Then where is the question of brotherhood? If you don't find your father, then how do you select your brother? These are the imperfectness. The . . . if you actually want to do something for your brother in universal brotherhood, first of all establish your relationship with father, which you have lost.
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Revatīnandana: "The sufferings of humanity are due to forgetfulness of Kṛṣṇa as the supreme enjoyer."
Prabhupāda: Yes. Because we are forgotten of Kṛṣṇa, or God, therefore in your country you are throwing away so many tons of grains into the sea—because we have no connection with Kṛṣṇa. But if one thinks, "Well, these grains are supplied by Kṛṣṇa, our father. Why it should be thrown into the sea? Let it be distributed to other countries where they are suffering for grains . . ." But because want of Kṛṣṇa consciousness, they cannot think like that. Therefore this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement should be taken very seriously to solve all the questions of the world. But they want to remain in ignorance, in darkness. Let us do our duty. What can be done?
Yes.
Revatīnandana: "The sufferings of humanity are due to forgetfulness of Kṛṣṇa as the supreme enjoyer, the supreme proprietor and the supreme friend."
Prabhupāda: If I know Kṛṣṇa as the supreme proprietor, then how can I throw so many tons of grains into the water without asking the proprietor? But I do not know; I am thinking I am proprietor. That is nescience. That is ignorance, practical. Because I know . . . I do not know who is the proprietor, therefore I am doing whimsically. But I will have to . . .
Suppose if I do not know who is the proprietor of this building, if I do something harm to this building, does it mean that because I do not know who is the proprietor, I shall be free from the punishable law? No. I may think that there is no proprietor, but actually there is proprietor. I do not know.
Kṛṣṇa says in the Bhagavad-gītā, bhoktāraṁ yajña-tapasāṁ sarva-loka-maheśvaram (BG 5.29):
"I am the supreme enjoyer. I am the proprietor of all planetary system." Suhṛdaṁ sarva-bhūtānām: "I am the friend of everyone. I am supplying the grains for all living entities. Why you are destroying it? You shall be punished."
So people do not see the effect of these abominable activities because they do not know Kṛṣṇa. But they will have to suffer the consequence. Time will come when there will be devastation, just like there was First War, Second War in Europe, and there was mass devastation. So these are the reaction because we do not know Kṛṣṇa. Therefore this movement is very important movement, every gentleman, every serious man to take to it. Yes.
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Revatīnandana: "Therefore to act to revive this consciousness . . ."
Prabhupāda: Yes. It is simply want of consciousness. Just like a boy is not educated. He is given education just to give a consciousness, "This is this. This is this." That's all. So therefore the whole movement should be to change the consciousness. That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness.
Yes.
Revatīnandana: "Therefore to act to revive this consciousness within the entire human society is the highest welfare work."
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Revatīnandana: "One cannot be engaged in first-class welfare work without being liberated in the Supreme. A Kṛṣṇa conscious person has no doubt about the supremacy of Kṛṣṇa. He has no doubt because he is completely freed from all sins. This is the state of divine love."
"A person engaged only in administering to the physical welfare of human society cannot factually help anyone. Temporary relief of the external body and the mind of the living entity is not satisfactory. The real cause of his difficulties . . ."
Prabhupāda: Just like in New York I have seen there is mental hospital, big mental hospital. What is that?
Devotee: Bellevue.
Prabhupāda: Bellevue. Simply building is increasing. Every year the building is increasing. What is that? The number of lunatic persons are increasing. You see? But they are under welfare activities. But they do not see that, "How much welfare I am doing? Why the patients are increasing?" You see? "Oh, we have increased the hospital." That means you increase the disease. They are very much proud of having a big hospital. (laughter) (laughs) Just see the ignorance. They are not sorry that "Why so much big hospital? Why so much big prison house?" The number of prisoners are increased.
So rascals are there in . . . engaged in welfare activities. You see? And they are in charge of welfare activities. I do not wish to criticize, but there are so many things, simply rascaldom—without Kṛṣṇa consciousness.