Dr. Patel: Yesterday I studied Seventh Chapter of . . . Sixth Chapter of Prahlāda Mahārāja, and . . .
Prabhupāda: Oh. Prahlāda Mahārāja's . . .
Dr. Patel: This morning only. Hiraṇyakaśipu, from Śrīmad-Bhāgavata. This morning only I read about this thing.
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. (break) . . . becomes humble. God is for the humble and meek. In Bible also it is stated. And because everyone is trying to become God, how he becomes humble?
Dr. Patel: I think Christ taught humility by his own action.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. Even Vaiṣṇava . . .
Dr. Patel: All Vaiṣṇava . . . I mean Vaiṣṇava ācāryas suffered extremely than that.
Prabhupāda: Kavirāja Gosvāmī, who has written this immortal Caitanya-caritāmṛta, he is presenting himself, purīṣera kīṭa haite muñi se laghiṣṭha (CC Adi 5.205): "I am lower than the worms in the stool." Just see. He is not hypocrite. He is feeling like that: "Oh, what is my value?" Purīṣera kīṭa haite muñi se laghiṣṭha, jagāi mādhāi haite muñi se pāpiṣṭha. Jagāi-Mādhāi was a . . .
Dr. Patel: Those two boys, Caitanya . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes. So he says, "I am more sinful than Jagāi-Mādhāi." Mora nāma yei laya tāra puṇya kṣaya: "If anyone remembers me, then whatever pious activities he has done, it is all finished."
Dr. Patel: These Vaiṣṇava ācāryas don't allow their feet to be touched because they feel that he should . . .
Prabhupāda: So why they do not utilize it proper?
Dr. Patel: This is a private thing . . . (indistinct) . . . they want to be . . . (indistinct) . . . my daughter . . . (indistinct) . . . is now with a boy who is studying . . . he has his M.D. of London . . . (indistinct) . . . they are coming two months' time.
Prabhupāda: It is settled up. Very nice. And son? Your son?
Dr. Patel: My son is in the Caine(?) Hospital, a professor of medicine.
Prabhupāda: No, no, he is also married? No.
Dr. Patel: He is married, yes.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Father-mother's responsibility up to marriage. Then they are . . . they are locked. They are locked.