So when material existence is finished, that is nirvāṇa. But you have to go farther. You have to develop farther. Then your real, constitutional life as spirit soul will be manifested. So that is bhakti-mārga. That activity is healthy life after nirvāṇa. So those who are in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, they have already passed this material existence and nirvāṇa stage. They are in healthy activities, provided he is actually engaged in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. So ei tina dhāmera haya kṛṣṇa adhīśvara.
Now, these tina dhāma, three systems of existence, the material world and the marginal place, Maheśa-dhāma, and the spiritual sky. So in the Bhagavad-gītā you have learned that yad gatvā na nivartante tad dhāma paramaṁ mama (BG 15.6). That dhāma word is used there. Dhāma means place. Everything, Kṛṣṇa is proprietor of all places. But that does not mean that we should remain in this because this is also Kṛṣṇa's place. No.
In the Bhagavad-gītā, Tenth Chapter, you will find that Kṛṣṇa says that dyūtaṁ chalayatām asmi (BG 10.36): "Amongst the all kinds of cheating professions, I am gambling." Kṛṣṇa says that "Amongst all kinds of cheating business, I am gambling." Gambling . . . there is in gambling, it requires some expert brain, how to play gamble. So that expertness, that part of expert endeavor, is Kṛṣṇa. So we should not think, "Oh, because Kṛṣṇa is gambling also, so let us engage and devote in gambling." No. Kṛṣṇa is everything. Kṛṣṇa is everything, but we have to select favorably, not unfavorably.
Sarvam khalv idaṁ brahma (Chāndogya Upaniṣad 3.14.1). Without Brahman, without Kṛṣṇa, nothing can exist. Everything existing on His energy. The same example can be given . . . just, every department is government department. Therefore if a prisoner says: "Yes, I am in government department," that sort of knowledge is not very good. "Because prison department is also criminal department . . . is also government department, so instead of becoming in the university department, let me go to the criminal department," that is not congenial.
We have to select. Kṛṣṇa is everything. So Kṛṣṇa says that every dhāma, every place, belongs to Him, but yad gatvā na nivartante tad dhāma paramaṁ mama (BG 15.6): "There is an eternal dhāma, where going nobody comes back. That is My supreme dhāma."