Prabhupāda: The real issue is the Communists do not want any religious movement in Bengal. That is real issue.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And we're the only one left. Ramakrishna Mission is not religious.
Prabhupāda: Oh, it is not.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Gauḍīya Maṭha is ineffective. And the Christians are not big.
Prabhupāda: These rascal, I mean to say, guṇḍā class, they do not like Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Ramakrishna also does not. They say that Caitanya had men, in Orissa also, the people emasculated. In Orissa they say that since Mahārāja Pratāparudra met Caitanya Mahāprabhu, he lost his kṣatriya strength. He was very powerful king, but since he met Caitanya Mahāprabhu, he became effeminate.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What is your answer to that?
Prabhupāda: That is the Orissa government's principle.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What is our answer to that? Our reply?
Prabhupāda: What you can reply if you conclude something like . . . they have no idea of spiritual life. This is disrupting, na dhanaṁ na janam (CC Antya 20.29, Śikṣāṣṭaka 4). We don't want this. And they want it. So how you can reply? Everyone wants this, and we say: "Don't want." How you can make compromise? Therefore they say "emasculated." In your country also. "Why? What is the wrong, illicit sex? What is the wrong, intoxication?" They say: "Brainwash. Why not?" Is it not? It is very difficult to push on this movement. Still, we are going. That is Kṛṣṇa's grace.