Prabhupāda: Hundreds and thousands. Here, of course, we have not so many cars, but there in many cities I have seen. They have gathered together, and then they are pressed and thrown to the iron factory and again melted in fire of . . . so similarly, when the life is not there, it is a lump of matter. So it is lump of matter. Just like the motorcar: when it was being driven by driver, it has value, but when it is not to be driven anymore, it has no value. Similarly . . . but the motorcar is the same. It is the driver that is important. Similarly, the soul is important, not this body. But the modern civilization, accepting this body as the important, and they have no information of the driver, soul.
CID Chief: They try to decorate it, a body, dead body. It is . . .
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Decorating a dead body.
CID Chief: No, but I think this . . . a lot of awakening in the mind of people.
Prabhupāda: This education is lacking throughout the whole world, and we have started this movement to give this education, and people are against. That means they have become so fallen that they cannot even take up right knowledge. The same proverb: "It is folly to be wise where ignorance is bliss." So we have to struggle against this darkness—but we have to do it. This is our mission. We cannot stop it. It is Caitanya Mahāprabhu's mission, para-upakāra. People are kept in darkness, and . . . that is not Caitanya Mahāprabhu . . . Kṛṣṇa's mission, actually. Yadā yadā hi dharmasya glānir bhavati bhārata (BG 4.7): "When people are misguided," tadātmānaṁ sṛjāmy aham, "at that time I come down." So the whole world is misguided on this bodily concept of life, and this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement means Kṛṣṇa has come down in the shape of this movement. That is the real fact. Nāma-rūpe kṛṣṇa kali-kāle avatāra (CC Adi 17.22): "In the Kali-yuga Kṛṣṇa is incarnated in the form of His name, Hare Kṛṣṇa." Therefore in this age . . . that . . . kīrtanād eva kṛṣṇasya mukta-saṅgaḥ paraṁ vrajet (SB 12.3.51). This is the injunction of the śāstras. Kīrtanād eva kṛṣṇasya, simply by chanting the holy name of Kṛṣṇa, mukta-saṅga, he becomes free from all this material contamination, and paraṁ vrajet, he goes back home, back to . . . so this name is not different. Because Kṛṣṇa is absolute, there is no difference between His name and Himself. And that is confirmed in the śāstra, and Caitanya Mahāprabhu recommends, śāstra recommends. We're just following their footprints there. Kaler doṣa-nidhe rājann asti hy eko mahān guṇaḥ (SB 12.3.51). This Kali-yuga is the ocean of faults. So . . . but there is one great opportunity in this ocean of faults. What is that? Kīrtanād eva kṛṣṇasya mukta-saṅgaḥ param . . . that is a great facility to these rascals, that if they chant Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra, they become free from all contamination and become fit for going back home, back to Godhead. So this is a authorized movement. It is not a concoction, manufactured idea. So we are doing that.