Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: El Cid Conquedor.
Jayatīrtha: He was a famous Spanish soldier.
Rāmeśvara: He fought the Muslims when they invaded Spain. He is a famous Spanish man who fought against the Muslims when they invaded. From Africa, they crossed over the sea and invaded Spain.
Brahmānanda: The Moors. (break)
Prabhupāda: This has got some meaning. What is this matchbox? There is earth, there is sands (sense?), there is comfort. So we shall go this way or...? (break) It is all vacant? (break) Big demonstration of cow fighting, bull fighting, and kill them. Such a Christian is trying to convert others as Christians! Just see the fun. Christ said, "Thou shall not kill," and they are sporting with the life of bull, and they are Christian. We have to believe.
Yadubara: Isn't that somewhat in the kṣatriya spirit?
Prabhupāda: Nonsense spirit. Rascal spirit.
Yadubara: But sometimes those people get killed when they're fighting the bull.
Prabhupāda: But your arrangement is to kill the bull. By chance or by God's desire you become killed.
Brahmānanda: It's a very popular sport.
Prabhupāda: Yes. And they are Christians.
Jayatīrtha: I think before the bullfighter goes to the ring, he first goes to the church and prays for blessings that he will be able to do very nicely.
Prabhupāda: Ācchā?
Brahmānanda: And everyone gets drunk.
Prabhupāda: Very good preaching.
Yadubara: They also have those cock fights, you know, those chicken fights. (break)