Rūpānuga: From Svarūpa Dāmodara Prabhu's experience, it appears that India is the best place to begin our attack on science.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Rūpānuga: Because we can recruit Indian scientists, I think, and then to...
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Rūpānuga: ...America we can make some headway. Because America, the scientists are very arrogant and dogmatic. They're not so receptive. Here there is...
Prabhupāda: Big, big animals. Big animals. They are animals, but big animals, because they have got money. "Money is sweeter than honey."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That Bombay auditorium, theater, Prabhupāda was saying, could be used for so many meetings.
Bali-mardana: Conferences. Scientific conferences.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Simply.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: We can give very nice slide show there.
Prabhupāda: So you make Bombay your headquarter. India means Bombay. And from Bombay you go and come. Make this...
Bali-mardana: In the West now Indian scientists have a big name because they are making...
Prabhupāda: And recruit Indian scientists. Make it. It will be very nice. Let us go to Bombay and organize.
Rūpānuga: Because India now has the bomb, they are respected.
Bali-mardana: Atom bomb.
Prabhupāda: No, Indian people are more intelligent. There is no doubt about it. I... At least I see that during British period there were so many railway collisions. Now it is not there.
Bali-mardana: So many what?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Railway collisions, and now there is none with the Indian drivers. Oh, yeah. We don't find... Although the roads are horrible here and there's no lights, there are very few accidents.
Prabhupāda: That I have studied already, that British period, occasionally so many railway accidents. But the Indian people, since svarāja, I see no railway accidents. And they are being managed, these railway lines, by śūdra class, less-intelligent class. So they are so intelligent.
Rūpānuga: Compared to the British.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They sent their best men here.
Prabhupāda: The fireman, Indian driver, the signal man, they are not very high class men.
Rūpānuga: In America the scientists are like the blacksmiths. They're like just blacksmiths. And in India the scientists may have some culture...
Prabhupāda: Blacksmith or black snake?
Rūpānuga: Both. (laughs) But at least in India...
Prabhupāda: So organize in India. Make your headquarters in India.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes. Gopāla Kṛṣṇa already told me that he will give us two rooms.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. Two, three, as many rooms, you take.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That theater is very prominent.
Prabhupāda: Yes
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Bombay's very nice.
Prabhupāda: Very nice? Yes. Now see. (laughter) He is one of the person who helped you. When I went to Africa I asked Brahmānanda, "Are you going to support me?" He said, "Yes, I'll do." Then I signed. Otherwise I hesitated, that "These people are denying property..."
Svarūpa Dāmodara: The people are envious of Bombay, especially this man, Sada. He's head of the Trombay that I talked. He was the... Everybody knew about our temple.
Prabhupāda: That is a good advertisement.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: It's not even complete yet, but already everybody knows about it, so popular.
Prabhupāda: And there is a big history behind this. (laughs) They wanted to throw away Rādhā-Rāsa-vihārījī. And I prayed always, "If you are thrown away, then it is..., my life is thrown away. You must stay here. It is a great insult." So He has not moved an inch.