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In the prison house there are some population, but they are not majority. The majority of the population, they're outside the prison house. Similarly, majority of living being, part & parcel of God, they are in the spiritual world. Only a few falls down

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"Just like in the prison house there are some population, but they are not majority. The majority of the population, they're outside the prison house. Similarly, majority of living being, part and parcel of God, they are in the spiritual world. Only a few falls down"

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Conversations and Morning Walks

1975 Conversations and Morning Walks

Whole material world, all the living entities they are... Just like in the prison house there are some population, but they are not majority. The majority of the population, they're outside the prison house. Similarly, majority of living being, part and parcel of God, they are in the spiritual world. Only a few falls down.


Dr. Mize: Did all the souls that were in the spiritual sky fall out of the spiritual sky at once, or at different times, or are there any souls that are always good, they're not foolish, they don't fall down?

Prabhupāda: No, there are... Majority, ninety percent, they are always good. They never fall down.

Dr. Mize: So we're among the ten percent.

Prabhupāda: Yes. Or less than that. In the material, whole material world, all the living entities they are... Just like in the prison house there are some population, but they are not majority. The majority of the population, they're outside the prison house. Similarly, majority of living being, part and parcel of God, they are in the spiritual world. Only a few falls down.

Dr. Mize: Does Kṛṣṇa know ahead of time that a soul is going to be foolish and fall?

Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa? Yes, Kṛṣṇa may know because He is omniscient.

Dr. Mize: Are more souls falling all the time?

Prabhupāda: Not all the time. But there is the tendency of fall down, not for all, but because there is independence... Everyone is not liking to misuse the independence. The same example: Just like a government constructing a city and constructs also prison house because the government knows that somebody will be criminal, so their shelter must be also constructed. It is very easy to understand. Not that cent percent population will be criminal, but government knows that some of them will be. Otherwise why they construct prison house also? One may say, "Where is the criminal? You are constructing..." Government knows there will be criminal. So if the ordinary government can know, why God cannot know? Because there is tendency.

Dr. Mize: The origin of that tendency is...?

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Dr. Mize: From where does that tendency come?

Prabhupāda: Tendency means the independence. So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that you cannot become fall down, that is not independence. That is force. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, yathecchasi tathā kuru (BG 18.63): "Now you do whatever you like."