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If you want really good leader, and if you want to become yourself also good, then you must give up these four sinful activities. Otherwise, all your scheme will be failure

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"If you want really good leader, and if you want to become yourself also good, then you must give up these four sinful activities. Otherwise, all your scheme will be failure"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1974 Conversations and Morning Walks

If you want good men, good leader, you must be free from all these, I mean, sinful activities. Otherwise there is no question of good leader or good man. There is no question. First principle is this. Just like a patient, he must abide by the prescription that, "You must do this, you must do not this." Then there is cure. And simply if he goes on in his own way, then there is no value of consulting a physician. So the first program already is . . . that, "If you want really good leader, and if you want to become yourself also good, then you must give up these four sinful activities. Otherwise, all your scheme will be failure."

Prabhupāda: Even prayers are allowed, unless there is scientific knowledge of God, that will not help. The prayers still going on in the churches, but what improvement? They have become hackneyed. It requires training.

Prajāpati: Then our political campaign should be educating the people in general as much as possible in the principles of Kṛṣṇa consciousness.

Prabhupāda: Yes. That is . . . it is taking chance to educate people.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: We may not be successful at the beginning, but it is a good way of preaching, exposing to the general mass.

Prabhupāda: Yes. (break)

Nara-nārāyaṇa: As they elect the congressmen generally to solve different social problems which are existing in the society, so in our campaigning process, should we try to show them practical application of the philosophy for solving all their social problems, or should we preach philosophically?

Prabhupāda: No. We should preach that, "Stop these things. No illicit sex, no gambling, no meat-eating." Practically you teach them. This is the real social problem.

Nara-nārāyaṇa: Yes.

Umāpati: Should we also try to introduce legislation immediately to close the slaughterhouses?

Prabhupāda: No. If you want good men, good leader, you must be free from all these, I mean, sinful activities. Otherwise there is no question of good leader or good man. There is no question. First principle is this. Just like a patient, he must abide by the prescription that, "You must do this, you must do not this." Then there is cure. And simply if he goes on in his own way, then there is no value of consulting a physician. So the first program already is . . . that, "If you want really good leader, and if you want to become yourself also good, then you must give up these four sinful activities. Otherwise, all your scheme will be failure."

Umāpati: So we would tell the people that if we were elected we would try to close the slaughterhouses.

Prabhupāda: No, no, that is different thing. Why you should say, revolting something. You say that, "Don't eat meat." That is slaughterhouse closing. If you say that, "Close your slaughterhouse," they will think that these are . . . what is called?

Umāpati: Radical.

Prabhupāda: Ideal, radicalist, idealist. But if you can induce them . . . that is also another process.

Umāpati: To influence.

Prabhupāda: They agree, then automatically slaughterhouse will be closed. If there is no customer for meat, then slaughterhouse will be closed. Just like Gandhi started this movement, non-cooperation, "Don't cooperate with the British government." That was his . . . because the Britishers were ruling India with the cooperation of the Indians. Otherwise, how they could rule? The soldiers were Indian, the police were Indian, the secretariat, office, clerks, they were Indians—all Indians. But they manufactured in such a way that they were cooperating. So Gandhi took the route that "You non-cooperate, then the Britishers will automatically go away." That was his movement. Similarly, if we educate public that, "You must find out a leader who is free from these sinful activities. Then you will be happy. And you also give up. Otherwise, how you will be able to select such a leader?" This will be our real propaganda. Otherwise they will think that, "They're against our real joyful life. So these men are useless." You have to explain that, "If these things, sinful activities, you prolong, then you cannot become happy."

Umāpati: People will ask us, if we get into office, What are we going to do? What is the first thing we are going to do? What can we do? Since there are many, many other legislators and many other senators, they say, "You are only one man. How can you possibly change the country if we elect you?"

Prabhupāda: That I know. That I know, that I am . . . therefore we are, internally, we are not after the office; we are after educating people. Yes. Even if you go to office, you cannot do it. Even if you give your manifesto, that you will stop slaughterhouse, and you are elected a senator, you cannot stop. Because they are majority there. If you say, they will laugh, "What this nonsense saying?" So even if you give any manifesto, you will not be able to carry out it, because their majority is there. Simply you can general way educate them. Or you can give what is there. There is no harm.

Umāpati: But there are many people in this country that would like to see prayer put back in schools. Even though they don't understand prayer, at least they like the idea. They are sentimentally attached to it. It was one idea that if we at least say that we would try to get prayer put back in schools . . .

Prabhupāda: But prayer . . . without these things, background, there is no value of prayer.

Umāpati: Yet there are a lot of people who would vote for us on sentiment, at least, that at least we are for prayer in schools.

Prabhupāda: Then it is all right. Prayer, to advise people to offer prayer, is not bad, but unless one is purified, that will not stay. But prayer, they are still going to church, but still, the churches are being closed.

Page Title:If you want really good leader, and if you want to become yourself also good, then you must give up these four sinful activities. Otherwise, all your scheme will be failure
Compiler:SharmisthaK
Created:2022-12-10, 07:31:02
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